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Do You Want a Stadium at CB East?

The Central Bucks School District will hold a town hall meeting to discuss the possibility of building a stadium at CB East.

The Central Bucks school board on Tuesday agreed to hold a town hall meeting to give the public an opportunity to ask questions and make comments about a proposed stadium for CB East.

The meeting will be held on Tuesday March 19 at Lenape Valley Middle School at 7 p.m. 

Superintendent Dr. Rodney Green gave the board a quick overview of the project's history and where it currently stands.

The district submitted plans for the stadium to Buckingham Township officials in 1999. After extensive review, debate and revisions, township supervisors approved a land development plan in December 2002.

But in 2003, neighbors Jeff and Mary Bretz filed a lawsuit over the project, launching what Bucks County Judge Clyde Waite would call in 2011 a "serpentine" course of legal challenges that had the case bouncing back and forth for years.

After Waite's decision in favor of the township and the school board, the Bretzes appealed to Commonwealth Court. But in 2012, that court upheld the decision from county court, finally clearing the way for the stadium project to move forward.

On Tuesday, Green highlighted to the board that Buckingham's approval is valid until July 2016. If a construction contract has not been finalized and approved by the board at that point, the township's approval would be invalid.

With the ordinance changes adopted by Buckingham since 2002, Green said the stadium plan as-is would not be acceptable for a new approval; the district would have to go back to square one.

The discussion amongst the board members on Tuesday balanced on the symbolic value versus the financial realities of the project.

School director Tyler Tomlinson said that building the stadium would go a long way to fulfilling the district's promise to give every Central Bucks student the same education and experiences.

"It's really difficult when every game is an away game," Tomlinson said, referring to CB East students who must travel to other schools to play.

The district received a $2.5 million bond issue after the project's approval, but the construction estimate has been projected at $5.6 million, leaving a $3.1 million deficit.

"I can't move forward with this project until I hear from the public that they want us to find that money," said school director Paul Faulkner.

Madeline Rawley February 14, 2013 at 02:04 PM
Academics first, then Athletics. Wouldn't you think this would be the principal guideline for alloting taxpayer money in a school district? The overemphasis on sports in the schools is helping push our beloved country into third world status. Our school board has the opportunity to begin to restore the balance needed to educate children to have healthy minds in healthy bodies that has been the ideal since the Greeks and Romans. Right now there is an overemphasis on organized sports in the high schools. There is no need for a stadium to be built at Central Bucks East high school. Put the money into the curriculum.
June Goodwin February 14, 2013 at 02:23 PM
Both academics and athletics count for a sound mind and body. Keep in mind stadium project at CBE was held up by two disgruntled homeowners, the Bretzes. The judge threw away their case as they have no legal standing to hold up the project. And also keep in mind that bids for the stadium project will be very low due to the recession still over construction projects. Better to build it now to take advantage of the low construction cost bids. And keep in mind that the school district reduces debt each year as it faithfully pays off its bond issues so they will still have a cushion to use in recapitualizing facility needs. Once this stadium is built, it will serve its purpose to the East community minus the Bretzes and other disgruntled people. We need for our youth to be physically fit and we need to provide the facilities to enable such to happen. My advice to the Board would be to go ahead and vote for the stadium to be built at East. It will be a good investment that will pay dividends in keeping our students fit.
Jayne Boccuzzi February 14, 2013 at 06:02 PM
Get it built
Brando Monium February 14, 2013 at 06:24 PM
If this country is going third world it’s because too many people form idiotic opinions around baseless facts when it comes to politics and community matters. Of all the arguments against having this stadium finally built, this is by far the worst I have read. When are you people going to admit you're only against this because you’re either too old and grumpy or that you made the stupid CHOICE to buy a house next to an already existing high school and don't want to deal with high school kids.
Amy Siskind Badger February 14, 2013 at 07:45 PM
My daughter leaves her last block 3 times a week for sports. WHY? because every game is an away game. She misses her last block 3 times a week. Can you imagine missing an AP class 3 times a week? This is about academics and not just about sports.
Pam February 14, 2013 at 11:05 PM
1-If there's so much extra money in the budget for an optional stadium them I am paying WAY too much in taxes. I'd like to see my taxes reduced if the stadium doesn't get build. 2- academics before athletics, absolutely. Dr. Benjamin Carson was right on target when he said America idolizes sports more than smarts and that's why we come in 21st out of 22 countries in academics. What will further American interests more? A great jump shot that you can do until you're 30 or a thinking/problem solving mind you can use to build on the rest of your life? 3- If extracurricular sports are interfering with school time then the sport needs to be pushed back an hour. Extracurricular means after or above and beyond the learning, not instead of the schooling. I'm all for sports (and played several through high school and college), but in their proper place, second to education.
Jane February 15, 2013 at 12:04 AM
You're so horrified about her missing classes that the rest of us have to come up with $3.1 million and more, but not horrified enough to keep her in classes and have her engage in hobbies outside of school hours. Gotta love it.
Jane February 15, 2013 at 12:04 AM
I agree with you on all three counts.
Amy Siskind Badger February 15, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Our district pays a few hundred thousand dollars a year transporting these kids back and forth. We do participate in out of school sports as well. Why shouldn't each hs in the district have equal facilities. They have equal academic classes. How about to save money we make all AP classes at East? If West and South students want to take them they need to come to us. Does that seem fair? If West and South students want college level courses let them go to College on their own outside of school hours. Sounds just as ridiculous as what your saying.
Jane February 15, 2013 at 03:36 PM
Suggesting we not use already-built academic facilities doesn't make a lot of sense as an argument in support of forcing taxpayers to cough up $3 million- plus that has no academic purpose.
Bob February 17, 2013 at 01:41 PM
What is the issue of sharing cb west facilities? Is it worth 5+ million for a football and track field? I rather that go into more advanced studies or something with education to continue the academic success of cb schools. Athletes will still have athletic fields, they are just 15 min away from the school... The cost of thousands to bus kids to cb west is either less or the same of the cost to maintain the fields anyways, taxes will go up to fund the initial capital plus ongoing operations
Alison February 17, 2013 at 03:15 PM
What sport is it that has games requiring the use of a stadium 3 times per week at times the require the kids to leave class early so often? If that is the way the school is handling the scheduling, then the problem is not the lack of a stadium. It's the idea that sports schedules take priority over academic schedules. If my kid had to miss an important class 3x per week because of a non-academic activitiy, she simply wouldn't be doing the sport.
Alison February 17, 2013 at 03:22 PM
I don't want to sound like I'm anti-sports because I'm not. But some years ago CBSD eliminated late/activity buses in the afternoons, and that has made sports participation difficult or impossible for many kids who don't live close enough to walk home after practices or a game. I don't see the logic in building an expensive stadium that would benefit the "elite" sports that need a larger venue while not doing anything to help increase access to sports in general in the school population.
Denise Jordan February 17, 2013 at 04:37 PM
PJ, AMEN!!!!
J February 17, 2013 at 04:40 PM
Ugh
Mark Orpen February 17, 2013 at 10:54 PM
With all the cuts the school board has made recently now is NOT the time to be considering spending on a stadium. What message is the school board sending to our children, our community if they put a stadium ahead of education? Come on. Let's be real folks.
June Goodwin February 19, 2013 at 02:26 PM
Had the Bretzes not sued, the stadium would have been long built. Since it is settled, it is in our interest to finish the stadium. Bids will be much lower than what they think it will be due to the recession.
Eileen Green March 19, 2013 at 02:50 AM
Last year the National Football League ( NFL) earned 5 billion dollars! 5 billion! I believe in equal opportunity in sports, education and business. It is so important to our community to build the CB east stadium. I also admit, I ADORE football !! It is an American Icon unto itself! Sportsmanship is one of the most important of American values. This stadium would provide more jobs in our beautiful town, and the absolute beauty of Friday Night Lights!! Nothing is more important then the spirit of a community, it is what we rally around in good times and bad. I know the profound importance of community support during tragedy , having experienced many. And my community saw my family through. A stadium is a meeting place for people, kids, parents , grandparents, uncles , aunts, coaches , players, students, teachers, cops, firemen, doctors, nurses, moms, dads, cousins, sisters, brothers. It works! It always has , and always will. It is an American Institution. Like Dennis Rodman going to North Korea to watch basketball with the crazy Kim Jong-il, sports is a great equalizer.....even among the crazy dictators of the world, and the crazy dictators in this community. See you at CB East stadium one of these Friday Nights!!,
Eileen Green March 19, 2013 at 02:51 AM
I support the building of the central bucks east high school football stadium!
Becky Ortlip Barlow March 19, 2013 at 02:53 AM
We support the building of the central bucks east high school football stadium!
Jim March 20, 2013 at 09:17 PM
I support the building of stadium. My three children have all graduated from East and all were involved is athletics. Since first hearing of this project, the cost to construct the stadium has varied greatly from just over $3 million to over $5 million. Is it possible to have the actual cost be constant in all of these articles. A stadium at CB East is far more than just athletics. Granted football, soccer, lacrosse, field hockey and track are the main purposes; the band would also have a place to host competitions. Additionally the stadium could also provide a safe place for the students to go in case of an emergency. Lastly, there continues to be comments concerning the funding of the stadium. My question is two fold. 1st while there is an initial outlay of cash to build the stadium, each of the events above generate ticket and concessions revenue that over time will less the burden and help fund these activities. I also believe that there is stadium fund already in place with a couple of million dollars in funds. Lastly several years ago, I believe that either Coke or Pepsi offered to pay either for the construction or a significant portion of the cost. Their offer was turned down because they wanted CBSD to offer their products for sale. The last time that I was at a school event these products were being sold anyway, could this option be explored again?
Kathie Butler Hart March 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Athletics is a tool for teaching so many life lessons. Team work, leadership, thinking on your feet, all things major employers look for in an employee. We are not just talking about sports, we are talking about molding the future.
Cindy March 21, 2013 at 01:08 PM
I agree with you 100%, I am not working, and a widow with 5 kids, and I cannot afford another tax increase. I am looking for a job, but have been unsuccessful.
captainstabbins March 21, 2013 at 01:09 PM
The reason the after school buses were cut was because according to the State of PA all schools must have the same transportation availability. Archbishop Wood demanded that the CBSD send late buses to pick up their kids after school. Due to the cost the late buses were eliminated.
captainstabbins March 21, 2013 at 01:14 PM
The money can't be used for academics. If can only be used for building. You should actually understand the argument before you offer an opinion. Secondly how do we build healthy minds and bodies?? Through exercise and sports. Obesity rate is at 29% in this country. Most athletes aren't fat. So by your point they should build the stadium.
Cindy March 21, 2013 at 01:16 PM
Well the other thought I have is have a fund raiser to raise the excess money for the stadium, then it will not have to come out of taxes. Go to companies like Coke and Pepsi again, even Gatorade for that matter. Since I have been here 10 years, I have seen a lot of community giving with the fund raising, heck they raise money for the Cancer walk every year at Tohickon, then I do not see why they cannot get fund raising for a new stadium. If that's what they really want. Just my thoughts.
Me March 21, 2013 at 06:09 PM
I am against the stadium. Use the money set aside for building projects for any upcoming renovation and updating projects in the older school buildings if that is what it's earmarked for. SAVE IT for when it will be needed - then we might avoid an even bigger tax hike that year. Why do most people think that because money is sitting in an account that it HAS to be spent. What ever happened to SAVING FOR A RAINY DAY? We taxpayers are not a bottomless pit that the board can keep running to with increases year after year! We cannot sustain these yearly increases!!! Many families are struggling and have been for the past few years. If the board takes money that might be otherwised saved and then used for real and legitimate building expenses when they arise (i.e. new heating system, new windows, security upgrades) then our taxes will be raised yet again in the future when those legitimate building projects come to the table because 3.1M was spent on a stadium and not on the school buildings - where the academics take place. No stadium.
Cindy March 21, 2013 at 11:43 PM
So True!!!
Brian Vetter May 05, 2013 at 05:10 AM
EVERY HS has a stadium. The stadium represents community, ...competition, sportsmanship...collaboration. The electricity built from sports breeds a life times of memories. Every school in the SOL has the own field, CB East deserves a place for the entire school to come together and graduation, and celebrate the numerous sports that will be taking part there. Education....is not just academic..... THE STADIUM SHOULD BE BUILT!!!

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