Teens Cited for Drawing Chalk Pictures
Doylestown police say the two teens caught drawing with chalk on a borough street were cited for criminal mischief because of other recent chalk graffiti.
OUTSIDE PHILADELPHIA -- Chalk drawings of a whale and some sea turtles earned two local teens citations for criminal mischief.
But police said it wasn't so much what they were drawing, as when and where they were drawing, that landed the young men in hot water.
"They were doing it at midnight, in the middle of the street," Doylestown Borough Police Chief Jim Donnelly said Thursday. "And, we’ve had several instances of vandalism with the offenders using chalk."
The chief said chalked graffiti has been found on several Doylestown buildings in recent weeks. Some of the drawings were obscene, and some were quotes from song lyrics, Donnelly said.
So when officers came upon two teens drawing with chalk around midnight on Tuesday, Aug. 7, they stopped and questioned them. It happened on North Clinton Street near Wood Street, according to police reports.
Connor Logan, 18, of Doylestown, and a 17-year old male, also of Doylestown, were cited for criminal mischief. Logan, a recent graduate of Central Bucks West, and his fellow artist had drawn "a large whale and several sea turtles" on the street, according to the police report.
The drawings were done with white chalk, and have since been washed away.
Donnelly said the boys were cited only for the North Clinton incident, but he thinks there was more to it than that.
"My personal belief is these are the same people who did the other graffiti, but we can't prove it," Donnelly said. "But the officer caught them in the act in this instance and charged them with that violation. So we issued the citation, and we'll have to see what the judge says."
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Brando Monium
9:19 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
This is so ridiculous its hilarious. Its just chalk. Why would the police even waste their time.
marta
1:08 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
only thing that comes to mind is that the donut shops were closed......the police now a day are such idiots that I am amazed that they can wipe their own butts
Chuck Veppert
1:46 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Did you happen to read that it was 17 - 18 year olds drawing the pictures in the middle of the street at midnight? Talk about 2 traffic deaths waiting to happen....and I guess you think they were too yound to understand the danger?
retiree88
2:16 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
The police did not waste their time. I think the police might have save their lives. A 17 and 18 years old out in the middle of the street at midnight? Getting arrested and getting them off the street is the best thing that happened to them that night. But then they will be back, and next time, nobody might not be able to save them.
Harry
4:52 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
I'm a retired police lieutenant and I'm constantly disgusted at what a bunch of punks today's cops have become. In my day we'd have admired the kid's work and then sent them on home.
Heather1275
11:12 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
I agree that this is ridiculous, and to the commenters that are saying "two teens out at midnight in the middle of the street" I would like to say it does not state which street, what kind of street or where the street is located. They could very well be in a dead end street, or cul de sac with no traffic except their own parents or immediate neighbors. When I was young kids that age were out underage drinking and actually causing harm to others, these kids were acting like kids, and not bad kids, just regular kids. Oh and by the way where I grew up we would pitch a tent in our yard and sleep outside, and yes get out of the tent at midnight.
Bill Guy
8:00 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
How much traffic is on a Doylestown street at midnight? Who are the geniuses saying that these two ran a great risk of being run over?
Donny Rothbardt
3:57 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Let's face it, chalking on the street often leads to violence and many times to murder. Yes, many serial killers and rapists are known to have started their life of crime as street chalkers. They should get 50 lashes. That'll teach 'em!
Wake up doofus cops in Doylestown...there are real bad guys out there.
Donny Rothbardt
9:46 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Wasting their time. Heck no! These kids were featured on "Most Wanted!" I feel much safer that these potential murderers are "off the street." Don't you? The cops should be commended....and promptly fired! 8>)
Bob Powell
9:20 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Oh no! Really!?! Waste of time & tax dollars, get with it!
Diane Fairfield
9:42 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Picture a sunny day and the boys are 8 and 10 drawing whales and sea turtles with side walk chalk on the side walk the street or even on the side of a building would they be cited for criminal mischief. I can't believe this will actually go before a judge.
eloc
9:45 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Agree w/ previous comments... The absurdity of this is beyond belief. In other countries, the work of these young men would have been recognized as cultural assets and not undesirable detriments.
Donny Rothbardt
4:02 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Many times cops tend to forget they were kids once. Plus it's no wonder that some kids learn to disrespect police. Personally, I wish they were hired as "peace officers." Maybe that would help lighten them up.
Wilma Fingerdoo
10:03 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Is chalk some sort of gateway drug that leads to other worse mediums like glue guns and glitter?
Sarah Larson
10:53 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
I actually just laughed out loud!
Mom of DnNnD
1:35 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Thank you for the laugh. That was a great comment. BTW, still laughing.
Heather1275
11:03 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.........best comment EVER!!!!!
Linda Reboh
2:05 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012
I agree there are so many worse things kids could do, to me this is a better way to spend their time than using drugs, getting into fights or shooting at someone. Who knows maybe a great gateway to some talented artists.
Linda Reboh
Jennifer Connor
10:15 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Let the kids be!!!! Doesn't vandalism have to be done in some sort of permanent means (like spray paint) for it to be illegal? Do the citations cost the kids anything?
retiree88
2:22 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Let the kids be!!! Does that include staying out in the middle of the street at midnight? If they were my kids and I did'nt know where they were, I will thank the police for getting them off the street at that time.
Greg Pierce
1:04 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Yeah Retiree let kids be kids! In the police academy they taught us "Police Officers Discretion." I would have taken them off the streets and delivered them to their parents by waking them up at midnight. Or calling them and making them come down to the station. That would have pissed off them and filtered down to the kids. I would have written them a warning and their parents! NOT given them Criminal Mischief which will now be on their record!
Jennifer Connor
10:16 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
P.S. Wilma - you got me laughing out loud!!!
Diane Fairfield
10:18 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
LOL Wilma! As a long time crafter, I think I did start with chalk. I hope this thing gets tossed these boys don't need the stigma of a criminal record over this tripe and frankly neither does Doylestown the AP is going to have a field day with this if they pick it up.
Mark Miscovich
10:26 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
I think we need a Chalk-u-py Doylestown day - chalk is not graffiti!
Mary
10:44 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Really??? This is a problem worth citing kids over? Unbelievable! I really wish the police would focus on the drivers who are continually violating the speed limit in the Borough and making our "pedestrian-friendly" town less safe. That's a real problem.
Diane Fairfield
10:44 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Love it Mark!!!
Wilma Fingerdoo
10:47 am on Friday, August 10, 2012
Sorry, I couldn't resist, there's a War on Chalk going on in our country.
http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/2012/08/03/outrage-of-the-weekmom-sentenced-for-letting-her-4-y-o-draw-with-chalk/
Julia H B
12:06 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I am an 18 year old in the doylestown area, and let me tell you, there are many other kids commiting actual crimes that these damn cops should be spending their time on. These kids do not deserve this, especially after the protests surrounding the central bucks area about cutting art programs and such. If this is what the area police officers are spending their time and energy on, there is something seriously wrong with that. Grow up! Or better yet, remember what it felt like to be a kid for a moment.
retiree88
2:33 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Or better yet, wait until you have kids of your own.
Ashley Sorensen
12:16 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
How absurd is this? I live in Doylestown....do I need to worry about my three year old getting arrested or cited for using side-walk chalk now?
retiree88
2:35 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
yes you worry if your three year old is out there in the middle of the street at midnight.
Ashley Sorensen
10:18 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Obviously I wouldn't allow my child out in a street at all, let alone at midnight. I wasn't aware that people reading this were dumb enough that it was necessary to clarify that.
Leslie Bachinsky
12:21 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
This is a joke . Stop wasting our tax dollars . It's chalk it washed away already . Give these boys a break!!!
Linda Busch Somach
12:22 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Occupiers in NYC and elsewhere have been arrested for drawing with chalk in city parks since the start of Occupy Wall Street Sept 17 2011. Time for the rest of the country to join the Chalkupation and stand up against unjust absurb laws designed only to make money for the gestapo (whoops I mean the local police). This country is going to hell just like George Orwell's 1984 predicted!
Deborah Walters
12:32 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
I had a neighbor who would pitch a fit if the kids would write on his sidewalk with chalk, even his own kids. He would make them write on mine. Honestly, it's chalk. It isn't desecrating anything, it washes off with water and allows children a means of expression. Maybe these police need to do a stint in a big city so they learn what true crime is.
EmbracetheDarkness
1:11 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
And if the drawings are offensive, wash the kids down with the chalk! Although with recent heat waves, they might enjoy that!
Art Waite
12:40 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Would have been helpful if the "several instances of vandalism using chalk" by unknown perps had been made more clear. If that earlier stuff had been obscene words or drawings in the street or on buildings, then I could see all the concern. In any case, since these teens apparently weren't doing any of that kind of thing when "caught" in the middle of the street with their drawings at midnight, then the thing to have done would have been to warn them and take their names and addresses in case of future truly "criminal" chalk business. In addition, If drawing in the street with chalk in Doylestown is a criminal activity, then I'd better watch out that my 6 year old granddaughter not only stays out of the street (especially at midnight) as is normally done, but also doesn't let her chalk stray off the driveway and into the street when drawing her kiddie pictures. I think we should appreciate and respect Doylestown's finest, but this kind of nipping criminality in the bud doesn't help. Perhaps a rotation program with the police in the "badlands" of North Philly trading places with out guys for a short while could be worked out in order to get some perspective.
Art Waite
12:42 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Sorry-- "with out" in my comment should have been "with our."
Art Waite
Gene Shumaker
12:53 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
the cops have nothing better to do after they eat there free donuts they go after kids what a joke and the chief wake up.... kids kids haveing fun for free....
Dana Baedke
12:55 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Let's have a sidewalk chalk weekend in Doylestown in protest! So harmless.
Gene Shumaker
1:02 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
i wish i lived closer i would buy the chalk not white but colors like we use to do in brooklyn yrs ago someone should ck on these cops and see what they do all day long how many donuts free do they eat??????guess theres no crime in that town......
Shell Hawkins
1:40 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Are you going to do it at midnight in the middle of the street? Sounds safe to me.
Gene Shumaker
2:01 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
would you go out in the street at mid night???? next time i go to kressville i will let you know and we can draw in the street at mid night plus
Linda Reboh
9:39 pm on Thursday, August 23, 2012
The Langhorne Municipal Building is hosting an "Art Fest" On Sept 8th and 9th, 2012. One of the activites on Saturday is a giant sidewalk chalk contest. The Middletown Police Department is right next store to our building and will not be citing anyone. Plus there's food, artwork in the gallery, art demo's, raffles, 50/50, we will welcome anyone who wants to make Art on our sidewalk with chalk that day. Go to artistsofbristol.com for more information. If anyone knows these two individuals tell them we would be happy to have them.
Ned
1:07 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Good Grief..one can only wonder what would have happened if they were using water based paint...beheading! What ever happened to having the punishment fit the crime.
OOps I forgot.....Radical Republicans
Harold J
4:18 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012
Sorry - The Doylestown Boro council is 100% Democrat.
EmbracetheDarkness
1:09 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
You know what the biggest business in Doylestown is? It's the courthouse! Look around the neighborhood...see anything that big being developed anywhere else? Look at that huge parking garage...who parks there? (more of us eventually!) And we're paying for it with taxes, and to ramp things up a bit, soon to be fines collected from the citizens of Bucks County! Our taxes will no doubt be going up again soon to hire more police and pay for all that OT to round up the chalk artists and go house to house confiscating the contraband chalk! Eventually the police will need new uniforms to suit their new duties, so some of our taxes and fines will go to buying some of those funny looking helmets with the pointy things on top and some nice tall boots for goosestepping through our homes and neighborhoods!
EmbracetheDarkness
1:09 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
All you Burgermeisters better be careful, though! I drive by your houses on trash day, and I see all those empty alcoholic beverage containers in front of your homes each week, and we know what's going on there! Your house may be pretty big, but i don't think all those partiers are spending the night, are they? Are all those partiers of legal age? I think that's a pretty disgraceful spectacle.
But then, you Burgermeisters don't have to worry about seeing the insides of that new parking garage, or the new courthouse when it's built, do you? You'll talk to the good ole DA Meister, or the Sheriff Meister, or the Police Chief Meister, and come to some other "arrangement." Yeah, we're on to those games, too.
Gene Shumaker
1:27 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
sounds like someone getting a kick back on all these new bldgs start cking records at new court should be public records???? also maybe time for new mayor ..doylestown use to be a nice town yrs ago ...
Ashley Sorensen
1:33 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
It's still a nice town....just has its issues like pretty much every other town in existence.
EmbracetheDarkness
2:12 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Yeah, things were going along great until kids started scribbling on sidewalks and roadways with chalk...now we're on our way to the fall of the Doylestonian Empire...to think, felled by chalk!
I bet that's what happened to the Incas and Mayans...maybe Doylestown will be on the History Channel someday...OMG, I just looked at my calendar...it ends on December 31st! We're doomed!
Gene Shumaker
1:57 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
midnight sounds like a good time its better that the kids aren;t drinking breaking into something drawing is good kids down south draw on sidewalks cops don;t give them tickets to busy after dopers and shoters our cops are no angels but they give kids 17=18 a chance at life thats why when kids grow up they hate cops ...
Steve
2:01 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
First you have chalk, next you will have kids riding around with those playing cards in their spokes, then the streamers on the bicycles, then they will bite through the hard candy too early and get to the tootsie roll center too early, and yes Antoinette, soon they will be thinking about returning to their evil ways to play hop scotch. Maybe a warning would have been in order. When is the trial? I guess we could chalk this one up to.............sorry couldn't help myself.
Gene Shumaker
2:26 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
every ones saying the kids could get hit is traffic that heavy at mid night ????then i;m wrong they should draw on sidewalks instead mid night don;t you roll up your streets that late ..... cops could bend a little no reason for ticket unless money going towards new court house and judges new raise......
retiree88
2:30 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
For those making negative comments about the police, keep in mind one thing. Those kids were out there in the middle of the street at midnight. It would be ridiculous if it happened during the day or early evening, but at midnight? Parents of the kids should be thanking the police for getting them home. And arresting them is one legal way of doing it.
Wilma Fingerdoo
3:53 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
One is a legal adult (18) and the other is 17. At 18, they can legally vote and serve our country in the military, but you want the PARENTS to thank the police because of the CHANCE that they could have been hit by a car? Please do not infantize these young men.
They were drawing sea creatures when the streets quieted and traffic died down with chalk that WASHES OFF.
Actually, I would question their judgement MORE if they were trying to draw it in the early evening, when traffic is at it's peak.
Steve
6:04 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Really, I mean really, are you serious with your post? Did you get bit by a sea turtle as a child, really?
lvnnbuckingham
9:36 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Correct! How horrible would this story have been if the teens had been hit by a drunk driver leaving one of the many bars in Doylestown? Everyone needs to look past the chalk drawing. What were these kids really doing?
Barney Sloan
11:38 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
An 18 year old does not have a curfew he is an adult. The 17 year old was not drunk or anything else. Kids have every right to be out at night. The problem with Doylestown is they want to be the center of the county but only for middle class adults with lots of money to spend. Giving someone a permenant record over something like this is a joke. We are becoming a police state.
Dave Meiser
2:46 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
If you think this was stupid you should contact Mayor Libby White
Here is her contact informaiton:
Mayor Libby White,
57 W Court Street,
Doylestown, PA 18901
Phone 215. 348.2581
Email libbywhite1@verizon.net
Steve Tabor
2:46 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Doylestown must be a pit. Glad I don't live there. It's got to be a bunch of low-lifes to allow their police to carry on like this.
With this kind of thing happening nationwide, there's a move on now to cut police salaries and eliminate their benfits. Some cops make $100,000 a year plus benefits for riding around doing crazy things like this. It's time to downsize the police and take away their guns.
America is becoming like Russia and China. It would never happen, if the local population were not such a bunch of nincompoops.
Ashley Sorensen
10:22 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Yes, because a few cops who had nothing better to do (because we live in a relatively safe community), equates to the residents of the town being "low-lifes" and "nincompoops".
lvnnbuckingham
9:37 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
You are an idiot.
Brando Monium
2:47 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
If they were out drawling on 6-11 or a major street that would be one thing but on some back road that's another. If they were to be hit by a car doing this on a back road in town, one could only assume the driver would be drunk. In any case, its too bad in rained today. I would have loved to see their work haha
tessa b
3:47 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
this is a joke right ?
you mean to tell me the Pa police don't have enough real crime to solve to earn the paychecks now this ?
CHALK will wash off with a little water no matter where it's placed ...theywould sooner see them use spray paint ? hmmm things that just make you shake your head in amazement...
Bob L.
3:49 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
too funny for words... and where was that 4 year old girl whose mother got arrested for the kid doing chalk on the street? doylestown too? --@steve -- next thing ur gonna find them with their knickers above the knee, saying things like "gee, and so's your old man," and reading jokes out of the whiz bang (music man, 1957, set in 1912 iow -- things never change ) @retiree, you think these kids wouldnt be able to see a car approaching and step out of the way? they werent cited for being drunk/stoned -- just for the chalk....i just decided i want to be the US Czar over terrorist chalk writing .. gotta keep it off the walls cause if the rain doesnt go sideways it will stay there a while.. ok i'm off to walmart buy me some chalk see if they arrest a senior too!
Nitroboy
4:06 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
This is an embarrassment. How about worrying about the trafficking of heroin in town instead?
Peter Gozinya
4:16 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Congress needs more regulations on chalk, this is getting out of hand, first a 2nd grader, now teens. When will it ever stop? Lets see, they have chalk, you have graffiti, you have thousands of teens living in your town, but it's obvious these are the ones that did the vandalism. I bet when it rains all the evidence will be gone. Must be boring in Doylestown if this is what the cops are worried about.
Doctor Wally
4:26 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Another pathetic example of Government by the Government for the Government thru the CRIMINALIZATION of "We the People"
K. T.
4:29 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
1) These were NOT little Kids this was an Adult and a 17year old (one year away from being an adult AND under adult supervision if you will) 2) Midnight IS probably the SAFEST time to be drawing on the STREET - not much TRAFFIC at that time of the day. 3) it is CHALK and according to the story has ALREADY been washed away.
CRAYOLA get your Lawyers to that CITY and defend them Pro Bono....I just bought both of my grandchildren each a 20 piece box of sidewalk chalk . . .AND I don't want THEM arrested for drawing on my Driveway (Where they have MY permission to use their ARTISTIC TALENTS and IMAGINATION to their Hearts content.)
When you try to discourage imagination your rob the world of innovation.
A neighbor who passed away a few years ago told me how one of his teachers got fired in the 30s because she told the class...(wait for it) Man would go to the Moon.
Jaguar6
4:43 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
You can easily tell when government has become too big. When it has the motivation, extra time and excess resources to bully citizens, it is time to cut it back severely.
Lisa
4:54 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
But we have murderers and pedophiles getting away with heinous crimes. And our tax dollars are paying for the cops and their familes to survive. They had absolutely nothing to charge them with. This is not criminal mischief. This is FREEDOM being EXERCISED. What our country is SUPPOSED to stand for. If the cops weren't spending so much time worrying about pictures of sea turtles drawn with chalk and spent more time going after the people who are actually doing harm, the world would be a much better place. I think the cops should be fired for wasting their time and everyone elses. This is just SAD. If the judge actually sentences them, I'm moving to a different country.
Susan Bond
5:16 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Ummm.. it's CHALK.. and it's drawings of inane things.. do the authorities have ANYTHING better to do with their time?
Art Waite
5:58 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Ok, I wasn't going to get any more involved with this than my previous comment, but I have to add that as much as I try to be fair and put myself in the place of the police trying to do a good job with their problem of real vandalism (according to them) with chalk on buildings and so forth in the past, I really find it hard to believe a competent police department would go along with issuing a citation for "criminal mischief" against a couple of people where there is no proof that they are guilty of anything other than drawing with chalk on the street (no matter what time of night or day it might have been). I can easily see that the thinking was that they were roundly suspicious of these people and issuing a citation might discourage these nocturnal and therefor "suspicious" chalkers who might be guilty of past misdeeds, However, leaving it "up to the judge" to decide if they were correct (or even legal in doing so) begs the question as to the knowledge of the conequences of doing things in basic police work. I supose they figured that if the judge decided that they were incorrect that they would simply be told that they were a bit heavy-handed and to never do that again without proof of guilt. The whole thing smacks of a philosophy of just doing anything to see if it works or until someone complains. . . .
Barney Sloan
11:42 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
It will cost these kids close to $1,000 each for a lawyer just to go before the local district judge. If they need to go to the county court it could be as high as $2,500 plus court cost. Got to keep the judges in their jobs and support your local lawyers! Police use to be allowed to use discretion now they write tickets to raise money for the local towns.
Antoinette Kijak
7:24 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
I think it is stupid if
As long as no profanity was used they sell the chalk for kids to play with. It comes off wit water and no real effort just running water makes it disappear. The worse that should happen is clean it up kids have it hard these days they can't just play like we used to do everything is a major problem
Antoinette Kijak
7:25 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
05 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
That means hop scotch is against the law.
Antoinette Kijak
7:25 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
This isn't the broken window theory this is chalk on the street that washes off with water broken windows are intentional dustruction
Antoinette Kijak
7:26 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Steve
1:54 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
First you have chalk, next you will have kids riding around with those playing cards in their spokes, then the streamers on the bicycles, then they will bite through the hard candy too early and get to the tootsie roll center too early, and yes Antoinette, soon they will be thinking about returning to their evil ways to play hop scotch. Maybe a warning would have been in order. When is the trial? I guess we could chalk this one up to.............sorry couldn't help myself.
Antoinette Kijak
7:26 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Lol for my evil way the trial is sept 6th 2012 at the magistrate in falls township.
Antoinette Kijak
7:26 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Did they change the trial location because of adverse publicity? Check out our Doylestown Patch, that story is rockin on that site.
Antoinette Kijak
7:39 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Get out really This actually happend to me on July 25th in Falls township the police did not see a thing just our art work I Love you Leah heart I miss you Leah Love Mommon, Mommy,katelynn,jess your sister we video taped the whole thing we did nothing wrong. the cop said I arrest you I said go ahead take you to bucks county prison I said yes that will happen I can just see it now the intaike officer seeing a 58 year old lady a 31 year old mother and 3 teenagers with a legal court order that he didn't even read giving us access to my grandaughter. Cop "I am bringing these criminals in for chalking on the street love notes and using silly string" And then we left not to mention that the 911 tape showed we were called kidnappers and 2 cop cars and Falls township tactical force came riding down the street because of a fraudulent 911 call and fraudulent police report that we are not allowed to have. The person who made the 911 call was in court today for the same thing in bristol township and he was held accountable for making false claims. So here we are never did anything wrong in my life and now if I am found Guilty I and my daughter in law will have a record for disordely conduct. going to court Sept 6,2012. it is unbelieveable don't these cops have anything better to do. I apologized to the officer for treating him like a pimple faced kid wet behind the ears. But now I think he over used his authority and his badge on this one street chalk and silly string they never seen it
Antoinette Kijak
8:02 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
The cost if. Found guilty is 440.00 believe it x's 2.
Angela
11:28 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
Such an embarrassment for the police department! Chalk washes away. Seriously? Go find some real crime!
Nitroboy
11:31 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
I like to thank our police department for making Doylestown a national embarrassment.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/10/2-pa-teens-cited-for-parking-lot-chalk-drawings/
Barney Sloan
11:48 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Thanks for the hook up on this. It hit the news in NY also everyone at work is laughing at our town. They said we should worry about real crime. The Chief needs to get a life he is an idiot. I am going to head into town and draw in the street. I am a 60 year old vice president for a large corporation. I would love to take these idiots on in court and I can aford to take all the way to the Supreme Court as freedom of expression.
Nadia
1:17 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
there is a new court house being built...maybe the Doylestown police are being pressured to raise money to help pay for it.
EmbracetheDarkness
7:25 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
This is all a part of a greater conspiracy...the Burgermeister is planning to outlaw all toys, Santa, and Christmas, too!
Antoinette Kijak
9:03 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
This is not only doylestown this happened July 25th in falls township there must have a memo that went out to all township police departments. CRACK DOWN On All street chalkers and silly string users we get more revenue than a traffic offence. Kudos Falls Township officer Elmore badge 84 Iam sure he made his quota this month and is police man of the Month. Congrats to u officer Elmore
Antoinette Kijak
9:06 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
My offence of chalking didn't even make the police log I watched all week and I fell under no crime in falls township
lvnnbuckingham
9:18 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
I don't know many 17 or 18 year olds that would have been drawing sea turtles and whales? At midnight? What were these kids really drawing? This whole story is fishy.
lvnnbuckingham
9:30 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Also, keep in mind that the media is often one sided or doesn't always tell the whole story. Two teenage boys, middle of the street, midnight. How did they react or speak to the officer? This might not be only about "chalk drawing".
Antoinette Kijak
9:33 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
No not really I was drawing hearts and flowers and I love and miss yous nothing more myself daughter in law and three tweens. Nothing more. Honest
Antoinette Kijak
9:35 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
The teen and the officer himself didn't say the boys were disrespectful.
Antoinette Kijak
9:51 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
I am sorry for all the typo and grammar mistakes but I am not a texter. I am doing this via my I phone which I am not good at one finger not thiumbs. Sorry
Antoinette Kijak
10:02 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Reject
Antoinette Kijak
1:50 pm on Friday, August 10, 2012
This is not. Broken window theory this is chalk on the street this is what it is sold for it doesn't come with a warning label it washes off with water an no real effort as long as no profanity is used I think it is over kill and the township is real short on money. However broken window theory is a intentional act of distruction no chalk on the side walk. I also got ticketed for chalk on the side walk. And silly string. On July 25th no profanity was used just I love u Leah and miss u. It washed off with running water the police didn't even see us do anything. We were denied the police report. All for street chalk it is not against the law however making a fictitious call to 911 is or giviving false statements to the police is against the law. Having a legal cout order signed by a judge is legal but the falls township police aren't interested in what is right just what is easy
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Bob Powell
10:33 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
The only crime here is(if there really is) that its sidewalk chalk and not street chalk! As for being in the middle of the street, in my day we used to play STREET hockey and when cars came, we moved(common sense) as 17 & 18 yr old should have and we played until the street lights came on. All you conservatives out there focus on whats at hand not what could have happen. As far as I'm concerned, they did not do anything out of the ordinary and kids will be kids and these COPS need to do their jobs and figure out what crimes are and what are not. This was certainly not. If I were an officer on this call, I would have clear it and sent it down as much as everything is(warned them and sent them on their way) and not put something so stupid in the papers! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
Denise Jaeger
10:57 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Let's be really clear here. These teens were in the middle of the road at midnight. They have broken curfew. They are unsupervised. If they were in their own driveways or drawing on the sidewalk in front of their homes, then it would be absurd. As it stands, they broke the law. My own three children would never be allowed at that age to be in Doylestown at midnight. No wonder kids are a mess today; there is no parenting.
EmbracetheDarkness
12:20 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Let's be really clear here. The teens were NOT charged with being in the middle of any road or obstructing traffic. One report I read stated they were drawing with chalk in a parking lot. They were NOT charged with being unsupervised. They were NOT charged with violating curfew. One of those teens is eighteen, and not obliged to comply with any curfew. They were charged with criminal mischief, specifically drawing figures with chalk in the street or parking lot. If drawing with chalk is criminal mischief, then hundreds of children are committing this crime in the borough and township on a daily basis under the supervision of their parents. Are we clear now?
Bob Powell
7:09 pm on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
the only thing about a "curfew", it only works when it up held...
Kkana3
11:06 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Anyone that honestly agrees with the police on this matter are out of their minds and are down right idiots. It's chalk, relax, I promise the rain will wash it away. This is why Doylestown cops have a reputation of being power hugry. And anyone that is saying 'ohhh the kids could have been run over! Thank you for our heroic cops for saving them' are also unrealistic....these teens are 18 and 17...they have brains, they know to move out ofthe way of a moving car.
Jeff Lugar
3:16 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Well those same brains didn't tell them it was inappropriate and suspicious to be drawing in the street at midnight. It was just flat-out suspicious behavior. What were they doing out that late? Likely nothing productive.
Jayce Garon
1:12 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Agreed.
Mark Miscovich
9:52 am on Monday, August 13, 2012
Totally agree Jeff - word is that next week, they were planning on drawing a moo-cow. Nothing but trouble, those two rascals!
Skye'sDad
11:15 am on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Someone please upload the "Chalk Police" flyer I saw posted at Court and East -- it is hysterical!
Gene Shumaker
12:16 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
maybe these young adults need a place to hang out. close the parking garage one night a wk let the teens skate board chalk pics play ball keep em busy.this way the off the streets, also how did the cops speak to the kids ????? what was there attitude the way people are takeing the cops have a very bad attitude on everything. hope the news papers are in court the day this comes up.......
Antoinette Kijak
12:24 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Maybe they should of been cited for curfew violAtion not chalking the street
Gene Shumaker
12:27 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
the best thing to do is stop all stores from selling CHALK OF ANY KIND in town new sign as you enter this is a no chalk town ...chalkers not welcome by order of mayor and chief of police ,,we want a clean town...
Lynne Venters
12:29 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
If the kids had drawn on the street at 8 PM (when there is far more traffic) would they still have gotten a citation? Is the issue chalking on the street or the time they were doing it? Maybe having this concern for the police to worry about now will cause them to leave the employees who own the produce outlet alone for stopping traffic to help customers back out of their parking lot if necessary.
Antoinette Kijak
12:31 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
Roalmao
madmax
12:41 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
The most depressing thing to me is not that complete lack of common sense and discretion exercised by the police, but that people like retiree88, Chuck Veepert and Ivnnbuckingham can vote and feel as though they need to impose their will on everyone else. When I reflect on everything that is wrong with this country, the criminalization of living life, the death of common sense, the rewarding of slothfulness and penalizing those who work to be successful, I think of guys like retiree88, Chuck Veepert, and Ivnnbuckingham and how their kind is destroying everything good.
Nitroboy
10:19 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Word.
Kkana3
12:47 pm on Saturday, August 11, 2012
^ couldn't have put it better myself. Let kids be kids, take care of things that actually matter.
Jayce Garon
12:11 am on Sunday, August 12, 2012
Such a horrible crime!!! Almost as bad as skateboarding!!! Maybe I'll move to Philly where it's safe.
Christine Carlen
10:42 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
My, my......how quickly we forget that these are the same police officers who put themselves in harms way to keep our residents safe during the stand-off on Father's Day. You, who berate our law enforcement officers, would be up in arms if there were "kids" defacing your property, and nothing were done about it.
Parents, keep tabs on your children...............they are YOUR responsibility.
Barney Sloan
10:51 pm on Tuesday, August 14, 2012
Hey they were not children 18year old is an adult and chalk in the street is not going to permanetly deface anything. These cops would not last a month in a major city.
Hey and the stand off was with a police officer armed to the hilt trying to commit suicide by cop! The only reason the stand off lasted so long it was one of there own they did not want to kill. The probably would have attacked sooner if it was a private citizen. See what happened to the mentally ill citizen in Rock Hill being gunned down unarmed and handcuffed with his hands behind his back.
EmbracetheDarkness
5:02 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Christine,
Case dismissed...you lose! Guess the police need to stick to arresting real criminals...not our children!
Michael W
8:48 am on Wednesday, August 15, 2012
I wonder... does possession of sidewalk chalk mean that one can be arrested for criminal intent? Does anyone have the link for the Dept. of Homeland Security, Pre-Crime Division, Terrorist Chalking Tactical Unit?
EmbracetheDarkness
4:54 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
The charges were dropped! The Burgermeister surrendered to public outcry! Viva the chalk doodlers!
Barney Sloan
10:46 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
Really!
Gene Shumaker
8:07 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
its great news hope this lad learned something from all of this there are very nice people out there and its been fun reading all the coments most were pos. thank all of you its been fun g. shumaker charleston s.c.
Barney Sloan
10:45 pm on Thursday, August 16, 2012
I just read the origininal article when is it the police chief job to assume since they had chalk they commited the previous crime. I wonder if he will send the chalk to CSI for comparison to the chalk taken off the walls where the graffitti appeared before. Oh yeah what do they say about the word assume! Hey chief you are an ass!
Lynne Venters
8:58 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
I just learned on here that these charges were dropped, but I am wondering if the news media was advised as I have not seen it on TV as I did the original charges. It would seem appropriate to notify the TV stations as it could help give some credibility back to the judgment of the Doylestown Police Department. Also seems that a public apology would be in order to the boys who were charged....how embarrassing for Doylestown.
Sarah Larson
9:52 am on Friday, August 17, 2012
Here's the latest: http://doylestown.patch.com/articles/charges-against-teen-chalkers-dropped
Gene Shumaker
4:34 pm on Saturday, August 18, 2012
maybe the town should spend some $$ on a place for kids to have fun chalking skate boarding just let kids play ... curfew must be obeyed by everyone thats the town rule .mayor spend some $$ on your town kids give em a chance at life instead of police giveing em hard times and the kids dis likeing the police lets get along together .maybe you don;t need that new car ...