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Blogging Teacher to Return to CB East

Natalie Munroe will resume her post in the fall, but how will students and parents react?

 

Will she or won’t she?

Ever since CB East teacher Natalie Munroe made national headlines in February for writing negative blog posts about her students, the question on most everyone’s mind has been whether she would return to the Buckingham high school this fall.

The answer to that question has arrived.

Her attorney, Steven Rovner, told news outlets Wednesday that Munroe would return to CB East and teach the same classes, including Honors English, as before.

On her blog, Munroe posted Wednesday night her version of how she found out she would be returning to work. She said she asked to be transferred to another school, but was denied.

Munroe has been a teacher at CB East, one of the top high schools in Pennsylvania, since 2006. CB East, one of three high schools in the Central Bucks School District, ranks 9th in Pennsylvania based on a comparison of 2009-2010 test scores from the state’s standardized testing system, the Pennsylvania System of School Assessment.

This year, it graduated 100 percent of its senior class, three out of 10 of whom graduated with a 3.7 or better grade point average. Of the 2011 graduating class, 94 percent are going on to college.

Munroe was suspended in February when her blog went public and has been out on maternity leave since then. She was scheduled to inform the Central Bucks School District by August whether she wanted to return to her job.

Wednesday, the district announced that it would hold a press briefing next Wednesday, August 3, to discuss Munroe’s status. A district representative declined comment until then.

Though they’ve had little to say publicly about Munroe since the incident went viral, the question of what to do about her has hung over the school board. Do they fire her? Do they do nothing, and allow her to return if she chooses?

“I’m really torn,” board member Geri McMullin, who represents Doylestown, said Wednesday. “I can go either way. I need to hear more from our legal people before I decide. I don’t want to put the district in financial jeopardy.”

But how parents and students and even her fellow teachers will react to Munroe’s return is another story.

"She will be completely ineffectual here," said one teacher, who asked not to be identified.

How it all began

Natalie Munroe never identified herself or her school in her blog.

Entitled “Where are we going and why are we in this handbasket,” most of her posts were about her life, her friends, her daughter, and her pregnancy with baby No. 2.

But her blog carried her photo, and the name Natalie M.

She wrote about her colleagues and her life at the high school where she had been a teacher for just a few semesters. She said she had taken to eating lunch alone because of conflicts with her colleagues.

But it was a post about her students that propelled the Warminster woman to notoriety.

She wrote about the frustration of having to choose “canned” comments to put on her students’ report cards and suggested alternatives, including:

  • “A complete and utter jerk in all ways. Although academically ok, your child has no other redeeming qualities.”
  • “One of the few students I can abide this semester!”
  • “Has no business being in Academic.”
  • “Lazy asshole.”
  • “Just as bad as his sibling. Don’t you know how to raise kids?”
  • “Weirdest kid I’ve ever met.”
  • “I hear the trash company is hiring…”
  • “There’s no other way to say this: I hate your kid.”

It ended with, “Thus, the old adage…if you don’t have anything nice to say…say 'cooperative in class.'"

A piece of clip art that accompanied the post particularly enraged disability advocates and school board members. It depicted a special-needs school bus and read, “I don’t care if you lick windows, take the special bus, or occasionally pee on yourself, you hang in there sunshine, you’re friggin’ special.”

The story goes viral

The post was from 2010, but in February 2011, Munroe’s blog was discovered, and students and parents were soon emailing the link across cyberspace.

Some students used the occasion to lash back at Munroe, calling her vulgar names, as well as the "worst teacher I ever had."

The story quickly went very, very public, from local news outlets to CNN, MSNBC and the BBC.

Competing Facebook pages were launched, supporting or bashing Munroe. An MSNBC poll garnered nearly 84,000 votes, 97% of whom voted that Munroe should not be suspended.

Of course, that national attention waned. But back here at home, everyone involved knew a day of reckoning still lay ahead.

Natalie Munroe still blogs, this time at an eponymous website, nataliemunroe.com.

She still writes about food and family but also has addressed the events that landed her in the news.

A June 7 post reads in part, “I started this year super excited and happy and flexible and hopeful. Then I got a particularly malicious group of students (again, no, not ALL of them, but evidently enough to strip the lustre from the positive feelings above) who decided to make it their business to try to ruin me.”

And a post from July 19 slams the Central Bucks School District’s recently approved contract with its teachers.

Munroe pointedly criticized a new proviso under which teachers would be terminated if they received two “unsatisfactory” ratings on their annual reviews.

“It seems like an awfully easy way to save money if there's a district shortfall, or to get rid of teachers who are at the top of the pay scale (or who are thorns in the district's sides),” Munroe wrote.

Munroe's old blog had about nine followers. Her new one?

664. And counting.

Should Natalie Munroe return to CB East? Tell us in the comments.

Louise

6:38 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Absolutely not, this is an insult and an affront to students, teachers, administration and taxpayers. Staffing cuts are made due to budget restraints, but Ms. Monroe is invited to return- what is wrong with this picture?

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David Hamilton

10:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This teacher has done nothing wrong, she expressed her opinion in her blog ... so what. She has every right to express what~ever sentiment she feels, as long as it does not violate or infringe on another persons rights and or freedoms. This has not crossed any boundry. She is protected in the United States of America by the constitution to do so.

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Lisa

11:06 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Absolutely!!!!!! Kids now a days are horrible and she said it all so what..did the truth hurt? please give her a medal she deserves it!! she did not commit a crime. I would never be a teacher with these kids let alone the lazy parents that leave it to the teachers to do their work worry about raising your children the right way instead of being spoiled little mouthy brats

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Brian

11:07 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Louise specd a day or several days teaching the young disrespectful brats. When did it become wrong to call a lazy kid lazy or a ignorant kid ignorant. EVERYONE is afraid to call it like they see it. Parents need to start doing their jobs and stop insulating kids from the reality of the real world. School administrations need to do the same thing, and back the teachers. The kids 6 to 26 have been coddled and are candy asses as my grand father would say.

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Jim

11:08 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Why is this wrong? Because she was brave enough to say what all the other teachers probably thought also. To say what someone else should have said a long time ago about these kids!!

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Amanda Jo Johnson

2:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I would just be thrilled to pieces if a teacher, when she feels exasperated (children do that?:), defeated, or ineffective, sought out the information or resources that would enable him/her to create a better opportunity for the children. Behavior/developmental education is not included in the public "teacher" education. And our children are critically influenced by how we respond to them and what we model for them.

Colleen Thompson

8:53 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Ms. Monroe would be fired from any other job. In PA , you work at the will of your employer. Her public whinning is grounds enough for dismissal.

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Jeff Lugar

9:04 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If they thought they had legal reason to fire her they would; clearly under the terms of the teachers' contract they feel they do not. The "will of your employer" concept goes out the window when there's a union contract.

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Nabob

11:05 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Wrong. Pennsylvaia is an "at will" employer state to the extent you don't have an employment contract or belong to a union. She's pretty well insulated from firing by the union (of course). If you followed the story you'd know that this isn't a high brow effete. She wasn't teaching all that long and isn't particularly well spoken or intelligent sounding. Clearly, this district could do a lot better but she is typical mainstream teacher - and one that lacks a significant amount of common sense.

Amanda Mandia

9:20 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Those are MY tax dollars paying her salary and she, as a teacher, should be setting a good example for my children. Not only do her actions, and the fact she is maintaining her position, set a horrible example for my (our) children, she is taking up space where a more enlightened teacher could be. I am outraged. What about accountability for our actions? What about respecting the privacy of our children/others? What about due process if she was indeed being harassed by students? Ugh.

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Cat

11:08 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

So by your standard she should St. Mary all day and night because any chance of her being HUMAN is wrong and detrimental to YOUR child? Give me a break, some kids are jerks in class and some are complete monsters. Just because she had an honors class doesnt mean she had "good, cooperative" students. She didnt name anyone, she didnt give her school name, and if parents would teach their children how to act right there would be no need for a blog to vent how bad the kids are. Yes I work in a school system so I have met some kids who would make an angel fall.

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Michael Vivian

11:11 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I thought it was the "Parent's" responsibility to set the example??? Maybe if Parent's started parenting...our school's wouldn't be in the mess they are in. Have you people read some of the vulgar, illiterate posts your children are writing on Facebook? Little Johnny and Mary need a ruler upside the head...both at school and at home. Maybe then teacher can get back to their job... Educating. So Facebook and Blogs aren't riddled with illiteracy.

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Kay

11:17 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

What about making sure you're kids are respectful and well behaved? What about all the kids that say hateful, rude and ugly things about their teachers on a public forum? "Respecting the privacy of our children/others"... REALLY?! If those same children didn't act awful she would have no need to vent. She didn't name any children so if those parents identified their child in the post MAYBE IT'S THEIR CHILD WITH THE ATTITIUDE PROBLEM! Due process? It's HIGH SCHOOL... so lets expel/suspend every teen with a bad attitude and smart mouth. Teachers put up with WAY more than they should have to becuase parents don't disipline or teach their children manners and to be respectful. Then they get mad because someone tells the truth about their child "he/she is a disrepectful little sh!t". Accountability also falls on the parents who are allowing their children to mis-behave and act up.

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h

11:31 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes!! Some parents who are parents! May I teach your children?

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Shelly Tudor

11:37 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Pardon me. But I do have one small question. Are they not her tax dollars also? They are my tax dollars and I work every day with students exactly like she has described. I am also a parent. If a teacher ever came to me with behavior issuse with my child I would deal with my child's lack of discipline and rude behavior. Unfortunately, not every parent can see that their child can be a problem. Most view their children with rose colored galsses and whine that everyone is out to get their baby. Believe it or not, the majority of this teachers colleagues feel the same way. When will this country wake up and relize that the problems with todays youth, their behavior and yes their abiltiy in school, is NOT always the fault of the teacher. I also feel that she is protected by the same freedom of speech that has allowed parents and students to say and write nasty things about the teachers.

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h

11:38 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I meant the replies, not the Amanda Mandia. I think I already teach hers...

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Staberdearth

11:41 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Amanda, sometimes the truth IS the truth. You sure seem like one of those false self esteem types. Face it, we all went to school with some really big douches, princesses, the self entitled arrogant, disruptive, lazy "don't apply themselves" types and MORE!. She's merely calling attention to it! Sorely needed!

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S.S.J

11:43 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Everyone is has the right to free speech and this teacher has the right to voice her opinions. She should not be in jeopardy of losing her job. Maybe it's time for the parents to look at their kids and evaluate if there is some truth to those comments.

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Jeff Van Pelt

11:48 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

YOU should be setting a good example for your kids. SHE should be teaching your kids academics, which is what YOUR taxes pay her salary for. She isn't paid to wipe the snot off of your brats. If you can't assume responsibility for the fact that YOUR kids don't have the respect enough to sit down and pay attention in a classroom and do their homework at home: like I had to, then shame on you . Your kids aren't the failure; the teacher is not the failure; YOU are.

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Colleen

11:49 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Both my sister and my mother are teachers. May I please say... They put up with soooo much more garbage from the "children" than a prison guard! Foul language, threats, destruction of personal and school property, drugs, fights, and IGNORANT PARENTS who think they have little angels even when the "children" are caught in the act! Yes, this teacher was harsh, but she was practicing her FREEDOM of speech on her OWN blog. I would rather her vent in her off time then go crazy on the kids. Amanda, you are a human, so it is safe to say, you have days moments of frustration that you need to work through. You choose to have anger, instead of compassion, for those who try so hard to serve the extreme variety of children they have to teach. Maybe you should offer a solution(?) instead of detstruction to a persons life.

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L Jenkins

11:50 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The reality is that, although her remarks might have been harsh, her blog was never intended to be read by students. NONE of her students was identified by name, nor was her last name or school. However, her ability to teach effectively at that school has now been effectively eliminated. What makes the most sense to me is to move her to another school in the system and hope everyone can start the new school year with a positive attitude.

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Jim

11:52 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Its your kids that are most likely the problem. Its not a teachers job to be a perfect human being as you seem to believe exists.. Kids sometimes suck.. yours especially, im sure... Mostly because people like you don't teach your kids the meaning of a good education or respect. A good teacher's job "does not include blowing smoke up some kids rear all day telling them how great they are" it is to teach. I hate to break this to you but there are assholes in the world and they prolly started as asshole kids with asshole parents. I believe in firing bad teachers but I would use test performance and not a bad review from some kid who prolly failed or got a D and his/her parents who are like you Amanda Mandia and piss an moan blaming the teacher when the kid and parent are prolly the ones who should be removed from the school as that attitude makes it impossible to teach. Thus you end up with teachers who's only goal is to make the kids like them and produce good reviews not to teach the brats... So Amanda direct your OUTRAGE inward, would ya, please.. for the rest of us... thanks.

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Kathern Skamelka

11:53 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am not saying tht you are oneof the parents that needs to be embarrassed about your parenting skills but society has become 1) too permissive. 2) allow children more say than their years and experiences have the ability, even if the parent thinks the child makes sense. 3) Parents need to teach their children respect of adults who especially those who are in positions such as teacher, police, cashiers, mechanics or any other position no matter how menial, and be respectful of everyone older than them especially the elderly and handicapped. They should be made to NOT shove past them when entering a building but hold the door for them, Respect is something that is not based on monetary income but needs taught......this does not mean that they are supposed to allow unsavory advances on them physically. 4) Children need to learn work ethic..........this begins in the classroom. Whether anyone can see the value of an assignment the child needs to know that doing an assigned job is the only option that will accepted. To allow them to decide otherwise is teaching your child how to be a jerk, snob, asshole, ner do well......... Being a parent means that you teach your child unpleasant tasks need done even if you do not agree or see the sense in it.

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jose

11:54 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

did you ever heard about your rights stop where the others begin? Instead of been outraged by the comments of a teacher about the behavior of your childres, should you put your five cents of parental responsability and give the teachers the respect they deserve. Your kids attitude is a reflection of your own and for your comments, is wrong. There was a time when the parents commanded respect for the teachers and worked in communion with the to get the best results in developing serious human beings. Shame on the parents that are critics of this teacher's actions. Did not understand the favor she is doping to your childs?

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Tawnya

11:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The lady is just flat out inappropriate and unprofessional. The way children act and behave is a team effort on all ends. You people who comment negatively about the children and their parents probably DON'T HAVE KIDS..... In order for a team to stay strong and effective, all links need to stick together and work with one another. As soon as there is a break in the link (this teacher or a lazy parent) the team effort falls apart and we have people pointing the finger in every direction but their own.

John

10:51 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The unfortunate thing about her remarks, which I feel are inappropriate remarks for a professional, is that she is probably spot on.

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Nick

11:20 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

100% on the money, John. The emphasis in this country is not on education but on grades. Rampant cheating by entire school districts and students buying their way to a college degree with ghost written assignments are just two of the many things wrong with education in this country.

I have personally seen first hand the inability of many students to make and honor commitments, to treat others the way they want to be treated (i.e with respect) or to understand that when they place their name on their work that others will judge them by its quality.

The real question is how maintain your professionalism while pointing out the shortcomings and failures of the students. Mommy and daddy must accept responsibility for the fact that in many cases they are a major contributor to the problem.

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Carl Johnson

11:59 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

100 percent agreed. Posting her blunt comments was a very inappropriate mistake, but she was probably right on in her assessment. Many school districts across the U.S. are officially begging their teachers to "Please stay the heck OFF of Facebook, Twitter and other open blogging sites" for a very good reason.

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Nabob

12:02 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Sounds good but if you followed the story you'd realize she wasn't in the job all that long and that she isn't particularly well spoken or that she was anything other than an average to poor teacher with little experience spouting off. Her lack of discretion in what she did is what is so telling. Wise old owl once said "Wise owl doesn't s*** in his own nest."

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ely

12:06 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

You are correct John. Sometimes parents don't know what teachers go through with their children.

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Carolyn

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Having taught for many years, it is amazing how little support and feedback that is positive teachers actually receive. Adminstrators focus on test scores, grades, and discipline. They want scores and grades to be high and they do not want to deal with disrespect or other discipline problems. School that I worked at this year told us no more discipline referrals for the rest of the year in February. Its is a sad state of affairs when in the teachers lounge you can be reprimanded for stating something negative about a student such as Student A was cheating today and was ballistic when told should have studied rather than cheat. Everyone needs to have a chance to vent, but a teacher is suppose to be perfect and never get frustrated. Personally, my students have been top scoring on state math scores for 4 years running, but I still have some that are very lazy and make no effort, yet I have to be positive on grade cards. How can you be positive if students don't do their homework, won't show work, and then try to cheat on tests?

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Johnson

12:12 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I have worked for a USA school district for 6 years and am 46 yrs. old
One thing I know is teens need UP building only. If they are acting out then they need taught by example. If they have a bad attitude it is probably because they do not understand who they are and how to handle pressure yet. The teacher who was berating her students is not a mentor - she is absolutely immature and has no business working with students. If she cannot see beyond thier acting out then she is not emotionally intelligent at all. All teens need ONLY people who believe in them enough to expect the best and act with respect towards them!! There are many unemployed people who could replace her and would not curse and berate students behind thier backs!!

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Cathy Herr

12:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Seems like it would be more appropriate for her to move to a different school. Also, seems like she falls into the category of ,"I have to do this for a living because I have the degree and don't know what else to do." As a retired educator (33 years), I am compelled to comment that she, most likely, doesn't like the profession and should change her career aspirations. It is agreed that much of what she said was probably true, however, expressing such feelings on a social network is totally inappropriate and unforgivable. Teachers talk and make such comments about students all of the time, just as doctors do about their "head case" patients, lawyers do about their "head case" clients, and just about any other type of professional does. Teachers are held to a higher degree of moral standard and they should be.

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Jeanne

12:16 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Having raised 3 children of my own, we definitely had favorite teachers and not so favorite teachers. Our children who are in public school are in such a vulnerable place, in school for up to 7 hours a day. If a person wants to teach, they should first of all LIKE children and realize not all children want to, nor are they capable of reaching their potential. There were a couple of teachers who were really unkind to 2 of my children. The teaching profession is hard and I'm sure there are many challenges teachers face with unmotivated and unruly students. But in the end, if you can't handle them or just begin to not "like" them, then that teacher needs to find another profession. Not sure if this is a southern rule or not, but my mama always told us, "If you can't say anything nice about someone, then don't say anything at all".

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Shannon Kroner

12:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Being a teacher myself I believe that teachers like her are what cause students to have low self esteem and not believe in themselves. She should NOT be teaching!!! Every student learns differently and if she can't recognize that she shouldn't be teaching! Plus, these "High School" kids have family lives that may be in turmoil, their hormones are raging and they're trying to look as good as they can in the eyes of other peers. Give these kids a break! This teacher is an idiot.

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Faye Laurel

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As a former high school teacher myself, there are some points in this article that are not totally unfamiliar. However, yes, as a professional who CHOSE TO BE A TEACHER, she is definetly not going to be effective with an attitude like hers. It is an underpaid, underappreciated profession. Bottom line - it's a calling. Really good teachers who are effective rally dispite their student's dispositions, keep their focus on why they, as a teacher, are there, and that does require some days of being extra creative and extra tough. An exceptional teacher doesn't let their feathers get ruffled over a student's antics, but keeps steering the ship. If you parents are really fortunate, an exceptional teacher tries to see beyond the students manic character flaws of the moment and can see something awesome inside that child. Freedom of speech violated? I think her freedom was over exercised and she should consider teaching to on-line students in the safety of her home as it's pretty apparant she isn't strong or wise enough to handle teens. I have seen some pretty rough kids who entered as a smart-mouth freshman, who graduated with a new disposition and hope for the future - why? Mostly because some great teacher's believed in them, didn't give up on them and who stirred them toward success.

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bruce

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She is just over run from all the kids hating the english teacher, was it worth the summers off? dont worry just think a few more years of this and you can retire on the tax payers money. I hear they are hiring down at wallmart!

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Donna Kay

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Of course she is right. Many kids 15 to 25 are lazy. Why? Because their parents made them that way. The kids are given everything they ask for and don't have to work for it. How many times have you seen a kid whining in a store that they want this bor that and just to shut the little brat up, the parent buys if for them. Or I don't want the $30 pair of sneakers, I want the $70 pair. The parents ARE NOT TEACHING their kids the value of money, the value of a good education, any manners or any respect. The teachers in the schools are somewhat lazy as well. They are protected by the union. They have tenure and can't be fired for any reason short of being convicted of murder or child abuse. The entire education systems needs to be revamped and it needs to start with the parents of the little brats they send to school.

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Ron Hom

12:24 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am the Director of a school in AZ and I have been a liberal my entire life. With that in mind, my answer to whether or not Natalie should be allowed to return to the teaching profession is an emphatic: Not no, but Hell No.
Children are vulnerable at any age. Teachers are to live up to a higher standard because they are the leaders. Children look up to us for direction. It's easy to get upset when students disrespect us, but aren't we suppose to be the mature people here? :) Natalie is behaving just like the children she is mentoring. And we all know parents can be just as sophomoric as their children. So, bottom line, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
Natalie-- you should keep your comments to yourself and those close to you. Belittling kids make you a kid yourself. Unless you can act professionally, you need to find yourself a line of work that suits you better. I am saying this not to berate you, but to make life better for you and those around you.
To the CB East board-- you need to discharge Natalie-- it would be to both Natalie's and the student's best interest. It is difficult to believe that you need to seek legal counsel for such an easy decision. This is a moral issue-- not a legal one. Do what's best for the kids and then you can sleep easy at night.

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Old School

12:26 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Hell yes, she tells it like it is. That's the trouble with this country, everybody is so damn politically correct it makes me sick. We need more teachers like her.

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Michael Valle Jr.

12:28 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

PROFESSIONAL, really, tha only persons who r working professionals 24/7 r tha fire-dept., police-dept, military n 1/2 ass working government officials.We as a Free people in this country have been given tha right by our fore-fathers, to speak our mind, no matter how ugly, vulgar or sometimes truthful, tha truth hurts alot and alot of times tha ones who it hurts tha most r tha very people its about. I'm pretty sure that those parents know damn well that their children r asshole's n jerk's, they raised them, they KNOW! It's just know, other 's know this as well, that's tha part that hurt's.

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Ron

12:28 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Absolutely! My schoolmates were spoken to like that by the teachers on a daily basis! No one took offense, in fact the parents appreciated that we were scolded when necessary. Natalie never identified herself and has a right to post her opinions off hours. They were not sent to the school or students. And secondly, there is nothing offensive about them.

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natalie

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Finally someone telling things as they are. Maybe this is a wake up call for those who can't take the truth. I really have sympathy for the teachers today. I say give the parents a day trying to teach and put up with children today, hell being a parent today is the most challenging thing ever. The children need some real tough love consistency.
And yes I have raised one child and have four more growing up. I'm the first to admit that mine can test the patients of a saint. They do mine.....lol.

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Jeff

12:32 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

inappropriate remarks -- You all know that as democrats you are not allowed to tell the truth [it is against the law] She should be fired but as a union member with full pay for life full medical for her and all of her family for life and a bonus for not talking with anyone and never never telling the truth again. Facts = inappropriate remarks only in today's destroy America

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Robert Thompson

12:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

1. Not very professional conduct

2. Not the school's fault

3. Not a product of the educational system (In regards to catalyst, incident, and aftermath.)

These kids don't want to achieve, I know this because in my early years of highschool I was the same way! I believe a friend of mine, aged 50; a firefighter in NYC captured it best with what he told me: "I'm sorry, we've given you too much and you didn't know what to do with it." Translation: Kids these days are spoiled, they do not work; mom and dad pay all of the bills and do all of the work (NOT IN ALL SITUATIONS) and this turns children LAZY. To simply sit there, feed them and hand them what they want, why would they need to work to achieve? That's the thinking behind today's underachieving portion of youth. God forbid someone who did her time to achieve actually comes out and says what is on everyone's mind. (Everyone with sense that is. Laziness and the lack of ambition, is not a learning disability. It is a personal choice.)

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john brown

12:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It's a shame that we treat teachers in such a way! They have no power in their own classroom and we expect them to teach when they are surrounded animals!!! Good for her she should be able to smack those little jerks around.. lol

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deborah

12:35 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am appalled, yes, APPALLED that this teacher is even allowed back in to the school system to teach any more students. She is inappropriate, unprofessional, irresponsible, immature, certainly not capable of student-information-confidentiality, not trustworthy, foolish, and not discreet, and a whole host of other things. If she were my student's teacher, I would request another teacher. No ifs, ands or buts about it, she would NOT be my student's teacher. She does not deserve the opportunity to teach impressionable students. And she said that some ruined her year? Oh my gosh, is this person an adult? Her inablity to make the most of a difficult situation boggles my mind. DO we really want someone this incapable of adult behavior being a teacher (and a role-model) for our students, our future generation of adults?? I certainly do NOT. She writes like an adolescent, and her social behavior on her webpage is appalling for someone in her position. There are way too many "whiney" young adults out in the world today, many of them teachers, who think that it's going to be all fun and games, and they complain the minute they have a student who is difficult to manage. Instead, they need to learn how to handle it maturely. Should this teacher be allowed to work with kids in that school? I say NO.

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Warren Johnson

12:39 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She is right , and after the kids parents called the school, they went right back to the same old parents.do you think one of then look at there kids home work.Did one parent shut off ther i pod and talk to them.Did one parent go up to the school and see what there kids are doing at school.The answer is no ,because its easier to give them cars, i pods and TV sets in there bedrooms, then take the time to see if they are doing what they can to Go to collage and achieve success.

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Rick Tooker

12:40 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I couldn't have said it better. One of the problems is that going to school here is a right and not a privilege, the kids that want to learn find it hard because they are surrounded by those that don't and the parents of those that don't want to learn look at school as a daycare. The fix always seems to be we need more money, bigger schools and the U.S.A. throws more money at education than any other country and our kids finish 27 in math and most that graduate cant read past an 8th grade level.

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Thomas Gardner III

12:40 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Count me in on this one as well...she seems to enjoy battle, or has a masochistic streak to her. Should be merry come September!

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Trapper

12:43 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

In every discussion, someone gets their feeling hurt. As Jack Nicholson said " you can't handle the truth ". If you tell the truth and it hurts someone's feelings, oh well. Just because she is a teacher and posts on a blog should not be held against her in any way. If the parents think their kids are " special" then someone needs to pinch them so they can wake up and face the real world. If she had posted these words of wisdom on their report cards, then maybe that could be considered ill advised. Teachers need report cards from their students, like they give to their students. Make all teachers pay equal to the level of the students they are turning out. If you are so bad your pass percentage is below 80% then you should find another occupation, because your sure can't motivate your students to learn. Oh yeah, get rid of the NEA too, we have enough political problems in Georgia to not have to face another teacher led cheating scandal. We can't even get rid of those teachers and administrators that promoted the cheating. We have many teachers in the Atlanta school system that we would happily swap for Natalie.... You go Natalie

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Anna Wood Mellin-Ward

12:46 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am a retired teacher and she should be fired or given the choice to move to another school or quit! She has signed a contract of professional behavior and should have know what is appropriate and what is not. Several teachers have been warned of this behavior and they continue to post negative comments about their students.

Whether it is true or not is not the issue. It is called slander and if she continues to teach she should be sued since she does not know the rules of correct behavior and conduct. She is suppose to be a role model for the students.

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susan

12:50 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The problem today is NOT the Children, its the parents. We have lost all sense of responsibility to our families-the main thing being My Child is Perfect and would never do anything wrong, therefore you cannot disipline any of them. Parents need to stand up and act like parents not your childs friend-teach them manners and honesty and the fact that they need to stand up and act their age because one of these days they will have a place in the world where they are going to be judged by their actions. The Parents are failing their children and the teachers have to put up with the attitudes of students who know that they can't be touched.

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LIZ

12:50 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This woman may have a degree as a "teacher", but absolutely does not inhibit the characteristics of a GOOD TEACHER. She seems to have no empathy for anyone. All children are different, and she should respect this. I wonder how she would react to a teacher of one of her children in the future, commenting on them with any one of the disrespective comments she put forth.

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sue pratt

12:55 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think she's very likely right about some of the kids. HOWEVER, teachers can't behave like children, calling them jerks, assholes, etc. The clip art about the special
needs children is cruel and tasteless. Her grammar and word structure is atrocious.
She had to be sure this would all be made public as her name was on the blog.
Sounds like someone seeking attention to me. There are many teachers in my
family. I taught for 15 years. I'm embarassed for the profession

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Jeanne

12:56 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

In an attempt to help her determine a new profession; she might consider becoming a book editor.

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Justin Miller

12:59 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She probably is dead on about how the students are but what does whining about how bad your students are do? Sure, we need to change the education system and sure parents need stop thinking that they're kids are perfect; but there are better ways she can vent about the shortcomings in her students performance and lack of respect than crying about it on the internet to her (previously 9) followers.

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Chris

1:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

After reading some of the comments on this article it just reinforces why I got out of teaching after 26 years. It really wasn't the kids. They haven't changed much since I started teaching in the early 80's. It's the insanity in the administration and central office personnel. Anyone ever heard of the phrase "bleeding heart liberal"??? These days kids can do no wrong....why blame the parents???....we have no control over them. It must be the teachers fault. I was applauded one year for my approach with kids and their eventual test scores and then told what I was doing was no longer appropriate....all because some C.O. person read an article or attended a conference that said you needed to recreate the wheel. What used to be a great job was no longer that. This teacher hasn't done anything that every teacher I have ever met hasn't thought about saying or doing. For those parents who don't want their kids in her class I have two words for you...HOME SCHOOL. Most of you think you know so damn much anyway. This way you can deal with your precious children.

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Beverly Early

1:12 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This woman needs further training and education herself ... to vent in a public blog about students who are in her charge whether she openly identified herself or not is moronic. I think she reveals much more about her own character and her limitations as a teacher than anything about her students. Just another example of a lack of professionalism.

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Maurice Kelhoffer

1:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I read with amusement several comments and I think, it's too bad that this teacher didn't put a humorous twist on her comments. I laughed when I read them. Many comedians have said the same things about kids, and I heard it all in the teacher's rooms in various schools that I worked in. I worked in an inner city school for 35 years as a teacher and administrator, and we must not forget that teachers and students are made out of the same stuff. It is perfectly normal not to like all of your kids, we know that, but of course in the classroom we need to hide this aspect as best we can. Some of my former students are in prison as they chose to to be non-conformists. And some are in the professions. What she said (and, she did not implicate her school or any other teachers) is absolutely true about characterizing certain students, but she should have done it tongue-in-cheek, perhaps in the style of Lewis Black. Let's not get bent out of shape over this, and to disagree with another contributor, she probably is a good teacher and that's why they want her back. She did nothing that was immoral and she has the right of free speech, and there are no legal precedents that would find her in violation of school law. What she needs to do is be careful of what and how she editorializes on public sites.

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Art Wolz

1:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Ms. Munroe my hats off to You for calling it right, Kids today come to school and expect to be allowed to do whatever whenever they want, mp3 players use of cells phones. Then when a failing grade comes home on report cards the parents blame the teacher for not teaching, never mind the student or students being rude,inappropriate language or conduct while in class, If I was a high school teacher the office would stay full of students.
If Ms. Munroe wishes to return to her old teacher job it should be allowed or allow a transfer to another school. I would opt for my old school and the other staff can just get over it.

Billy L.

10:54 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Just because she doesn't like her students? I have taught for a while and thought my students were certain things that was a lot worse than anything she said. What happened to free speech?

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Googie Bergdorff

11:11 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She had her free speech. If you're under the impression that free speech means that there are never any consequences for what one says, then I'm glad that you're no longer teaching children.

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Billy L.

11:50 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Of course there are consequences but you can't be fired for your opinion. I have never heard of that before. People are allowed to have whatever opinions they want. If she thinks XYZ of her students than that's her own business.

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Adrianna Crowl

11:53 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I believe she went overboard with the special needs bus comment & pic....but I understand her frustration with only being able to say so much on these reports cards and things...Who doesnt think some of these kids are jerks at times...my kid was a jerk in Jr. High. She went on a blog and didnt name anyone! She can say what she wants as long as she treats the kids the way she is supposed to! You can vent with your words as long as your actions stay appropriate. Parents need to check your kids. Its not the teachers who are responsible for your kids actions...they are there to teach them. That's what we pay taxes for not second parents! The parents need to assist the kids in being teachable...I didnt blame my teacher for my sons issues. I took care of it and she did her job.....she taught him. I dont blame her at all on how she feels!

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Kaitlin Farver

11:54 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If she feels that way about children, she's in the wrong profession. I would not want her to be my child's teacher. She should get another job -- a job where she won't have contact with children.

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ely

12:08 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree with you Art and believe that she should not be fired because of this. As a teacher you put up with alot and you have no one to help you deal with it all except your family and sometimes peers.

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Bob

12:17 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Nothing she said was professional or appropriate. In fact she went way beyong calling students misbehaved or troublesome. "Wierdest kid I ever met." That doesn't even have anything to do with behavioral problems like being a "jerk" or "lazy asshole." That is just attacking a child because he/she is unusual or different. Also, if I were a parent I would not be comfortable knowing that this biased idiot was controlling my child's grade. Because you know what, like it or not teachers can sway grades one way or another depending on how they like/dislike the child and don't even try to tell me that doesn't happen all the time because it does. I am 20, I was in high school and middle school more recently than probably most adults posting here. I have been through the school system not too long ago and can tell you from experience.

Also, she is a complete moron if she put her picture on a blog and wrote these things and never thought anyone would find it. That stupidity right there tells me she shouldn't be teaching anyways.

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Norma Feutz

12:17 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

People don't like to hear the truth so they say you are being inappropriate when really you are speaking the truth. The last two generations of kids and now parents are all out of control and LAZY I hate to see what the world will be like when the missle aged and older are unable to work. Because these kids will not be able or even know how to work and take care us things. If it is a living object they care nothing about it so we better hope we all turn into computers so someone will care for us.

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Christy

12:24 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

use that kind of "free speech" in ANY profession and see what consequences are given. Teachers aren't entitled to any more grace than doctors, preachers, nursery workers or any other profession that we would be disappointed to hear such comments from.

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Billy L.

12:42 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Also, she did not say the comments in the school but on her own blog outside of school. I call foul...invasion of privacy. I could work all day long and go home and put a sign on my lawn that says my boss is a putz. He should not have the right to fire me because of what I did or said in my own home or on my own property. What happens at work is one thing but I am allowed to have any opinion I want about my job outside of my work place.

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michele

1:05 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

All over the country people are bashing teachers saying they are lazy and not doing our jobs, but the minute a teacher says little Johnny is lazy well then they have crossed the line! New flash........some of your kids are jerks, assholes, and lazy. And when I sit in on parent/teacher meetings I often learn that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree! Not everyone is perfect, and as hard as it is to hear, neither are your children.

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Nita Royer

1:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I HAVE TAUGHT FOR SEVERAL DECADES AND HAVE INEVITABLY HAD THOSE CLASSES WHERE ROWDY STUDENTS WANT TO DOMINATE AND DESTROY THE JOY OF TEACHING/LEARNING. THEY ARE BEHAVING "UNPROFESSIONALLY" IF YOU WILL. THAT DOES NOT GIVE ME THE RIGHT AS A TEACHER TO PUBLICALLY BEHAVE UNPROFESSIONALLY AND BASH MY STUDENTS. THE TEACHER HERE SHOWED EXTREMELY POOR JUDGMENT. SARCASM AND SPITE CAN NOT POSSIBLY HELP HER IN HER EFFORT TO WIN THE COOPERATION OF HER STUDENTS.

lpresley

10:55 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Parents want all nice-nice from teachers.Ms. Monroe simply is tactless.....it never said whether she was a bad teacher or not.Plus? How many parents have bad-mouthed her or other teachers publicly?

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Colleen

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Absolutely spot on!! We only expect others to be accountable for their actions and words, but never take responsibility for the poor example we produce in front of our own children... especially when we critisize people like this teacher. I wonder how many of the parents of the children in this school totally bashed this teacher in front of their kids. This could have been a learning experience instead. I am absolutely set aside by the lack of support from her co-workers who, more than likely, feel the same way, to try to make a change in the systems that drive a teacher to this type of frustration.
Tip: Try to be a problem solver, not a problem causer in life. AND Get both sides of the story befor you send some one to the "guilletine".

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lyn osorio

1:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It is Natalie's constitutional right to freely say whatever she feels. As a former teacher I can say that some of the students were jerks but when I met the parents I totally understood. In a lot of cases the fruit did not fall far from the tree. I don't understand why people are upset. She is entitled to feel anyway that she feels. Some children are not pleasant & some parents DO NOT LIKE THERE OWN CHILDREN, they may love them but they do not like them. Maybe this is why the family court system & the juvenile detention centers are bursting at the seams. Think about it, sometimes there is a reason for the madness. I have been punched by two 10 year olds, hit and almost biten by a five year old & cursed at. Do I share Natalie's sentiments you can bet your life on it that I do. Go Natalie, YEAH!!!!!!!!!!

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KC

1:47 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am a teacher as well, and there are many students that I have felt are lazy. That take advantage of the school system as a babysitting system where they go for food, and shelter but not academics. Who have parents that just don't care. So i can see her frustration and needing a place to vent. However, she could have been more tactful, and yes covered her tracks a little better. We live in a society where parents are not held accountable for their children anymore, but teachers and administrators are. It's not right or fair, and probably is why our education system is dropping in the world ranks. We as a society need to step up and realize that there are many flaws in education and demand that parents become more involved especially in urban schools. In addition state testing is skewed, educators know this and yet we continue to use a test that is directed towards a specific group of students, not ALL students. It's time for a true overhaul of the education system.

Bev

10:57 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It's nice to see a teacher being honest and forthright about her job. Teaching is a difficult job and often has no backing from parents nor administrators. The teaching environment can be very cut-throat and malicious because of peers and a teacher can feel very alone, no matter how effective he/she may be. I know, I've been there!!!

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reed wan

10:57 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Absoutly she should get her job back. This is America and she is allowed to say what she wants! What the parents are having a problem with is-- she's telling the TRUTH too bad that they don't like it that their child is a moron. They are most likely that way because of these parents yes it does reflect on the parent as it should. How dare anybody go after this teacher just because she is writing the truth on her blog if you don't llike what she has too say don't read it. And you moronic parents which unfortunitly there are way too many of them out there take parenting classes and learn how to really be a parent!!!!!!

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denise

11:42 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

just because she's the teacher doesnt make her right! wait till she pops her little brat out! as parents our children aren't always naturally what we want them to be and that is why we and all the adults in their lives need to help guide them in the right way!

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Kathern Skamelka

12:01 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Unless I read the article wrong she is in England where the pompous send their children. However they also need to learn respect.........As we have seen in Princess Diana's children........even they can be respectful. Kudo's to the raising of those boys. They are good people and treat others respectfully.

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Kathern Skamelka

12:03 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Denise.....I see you are among the group of individuals who have never learned respect and obviously paid very little attention in school. With the venom in your comment I pray for your children.......if you ever have any.

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Marilyn Judy Allison

12:13 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

reed wan,,,,,,,you hit the nail right on..........this is so true of parents today..they think there kids do no wrong, there perfect,,and run the schools and the teachers. Wake up parents,,,,,

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Norma Feutz

12:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If parents acted like parents and not a friend the kids would not be they way they are. You are 100% right!!!!!!!

jim pavlica

10:58 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

jimj; Sometime the truth hurts. Her comments may be a little strong but she may be correct.

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kimberly

11:06 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree. She voiced what others just think. She has guts.

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Becky

12:16 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She is 100% correct. The schools need to communicate with the parents on how their kids are really doing but the parents don't want to hear anything negative about their children and when they do say negative things it is the teachers fault according to the parents.

David Johnson

10:58 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She's a teacher. Teacher's should set an example of being truthful. She did nothing but tell the truth. If what she said offended you as a parent, then, possibly you should reflect on the product you foist onto society. She should have never suffered the scrutiny that she did because of her personal feelings, as long as her feelings did not color her ability to interact with her students. I applaud Ms. Munroe. Let her teach.

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colleen

11:51 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Teachers should set an example by demonstrating better judgement. Being truthful isn't always the best thing and we shouldn't pretend that it is. We need to temper our responses to people and show some impulse control. We expect that from students--we should model the proper behavior. I am sure she heard that in a few classes she attended while obtaining her degree.

Asania Flata

11:01 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Maybe if some parents learned how to raise their children right, instead of expecting the television and the school system to do it for them, they wouldn't get outraged at the thought that their child is a jerk. They aren't mad at her, they are mad at themselves for being called out on poor parenting. Not only that, but frankly, it was an anonymous blog. Nowhere did it state she actually used any names. It is wrong to be upset that someone was venting. The only people who should honestly be angry or upset at her for venting frustration with her highschool students are the people who have never vented or been angry with their own kids, coworkers &c.

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Jim Srail

11:28 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Your comments are right on target. She, by all accounts, didn't i.d. the kids by name. I strongly suspect that most of the complaining parents are the ones with the lazy and ill mannered kids. Instead of molding their kids into well mannered and hard working individuals, they're upset because the teacher dared to write a comment that could apply to their little angel (i.e. lazy little loud mouthed brat).

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Jeff

1:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

hello mcfly! it doesn't matter what or if she used any names of students. sorry to break the news to ya but teachers don't get the luxury to vent in a blog online about their horrible students. what this sad excuse for a teacher said was completely unprofessional and hideous. it's really funny that no other teachers are "venting" about their kids. only her. the fact that the blog was anonymous is also a moot point because here we are talking about the teacher who wrote it.

this also has nothing to do with parents and "if they're raising their children right". this is about the teacher, and nobody else....period. you can sit back in your lazy chair and make excuses for this joke of a teacher all day long but the fact remains that
teaching is a responsibility, and writing a blog about how sickening your kids are is tactless.

mia

11:02 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

perhaps the larger part of this picture is that someone finally spoke up and said NOT every child is wonderful to have as a student, not every child is acadnically or socially prepared and more im[ortantly not every parent is even half wat good a being one!!!!

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CLhenderson4.

11:04 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Same old stuff parents do not want to hear anything negative about thier little ones,good for her this political correctness is killing our country. What is wrong with speaking the truth.The school systems are broke no dissipline in schools children cussing teachers and getting away with it.So when one speaks out, hang her. That semms to be the American way now.

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Jessica Espo

12:04 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

politically correct or professional? As a human she can say whatever she wants, as an employee of an organization or institution not so much. If she worked anywhere else and her clients heard/ read something similar, she'd be terminated right away. Maybe even hit w/ a lawsuit, depending on her contract's terms on discussing school matters publicly. there are hundreds of people hopefully, better people, who'd love to have her job. as a parent i always want to know my child's strengths and weaknesses. How can we make progress if I don't? there's a way to speak to parents and calling their child an *sshole isn't one of them nor is it professional, no matter how true that maybe, but it's easier than saying, your child has some serious behavior issues that we need to resolve. two wrongs don't make a right especially when she is a grown woman who should rise above childish behavior. I didn't know evolution was killing our country. I'm so tired of teachers feeling like parents are always the problem. Yes, majority of the time, they can be real winners, as I've come across my fair share through PTO functions, but some parents truly care and want to be partners in their children's education. we need to communicate w/ each other, but i guess that's too much work, it's much easier to get on a blog and trash talk your students, very constructive. get a friggin' therapist or DON'T BE A TEACHER IF YOU DON'T LIKE CHILDREN!!!!

kimberly

11:04 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She speaks what most only think. She has guts.

Would you rather your kids' teachers THINK that same stuff and never let you know? She's being truthful.

I love this: “I don’t care if you lick windows, take the special bus, or occasionally pee on yourself, you hang in there sunshine, you’re friggin’ special.”

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Gail Cesario

11:17 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She is now on the SAME level as some of the students she talks about. HEL-LOOOOO!!!!!

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Jessica Espo

11:25 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

if you were a parent to a special needs child you wouldn't love it

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Sadie

11:44 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As one of those 'special needs' kids, i though that was pretty awesome myself

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denise

11:45 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

she told the world not the parents directly, she's a coward!

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Jessica Espo

12:07 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

and further more if she had guts she would actually take this challenge of unruly kids and knock it out the park. or if you want to get really gutsy, confront these people face to face. That's not having guts, that's having BALLS!

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Barbara Garrett Richards

12:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree completely Jessica. She totally lacks professionaism and tact. She could say what she needs to say without being offensive. Being a teacher requires a tremendous of patience and if you don't have a bunch of patience, tact, AND a sense of humor, you shouldn't be teaching.

Gale

11:07 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree that teachers have to put up with a lot more from students today than they did in the past. That being said, she should have kept her opinions to herself. Not only does it show a lack of self control, but it is distasteful in the extreme.

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Linda Danskin

11:23 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

For crying out loud! Do you never vent about anything? She was on a personal blog, vented without naming names. And it was the year previous! What she wrote was probably what a lot of teachers would agree with in private; high school kids can be real jerks in class and turn the teacher's job of TEACHING into class management. If she had parents of the jerk kids that REALLY wanted to know how their kids were doing in class and she could be tactfully honest with them, then maybe she wouldn't need the rant. Give her a break!

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michelle

11:43 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Right on the money Gale.I use to believe that teachers were to set an example of good moral behavior and some kind of thought pattern before they spoke. Since having my own children in the school system, I have learned quite the opposite.

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Scott G Perdue

11:54 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Gale/Michelle, you both are raving idiots. Teachers are there to teach and parents are there for the morals and values. Teachers are not there to babysit your children while you go to work. And I agree with Linda....if teachers could be completely honest with parents then she wouldn't need a place to vent. I know plenty of parents complain about their own kids of how smart or not smart they are...so it's not like they don't already know the truth...they just don't want to hear it.

Jim Srail

11:09 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

No one is asking the only question that really matters. How are her students performing compared to those taught by other teachers? If they are performing average or better, then leave her alone and spend time trying to get rid of teachers who can't teach. Years ago, if teachers would comment on students poor behavior or lack of academic progress the parents would back them up to the hilt and get the kids back on track. Now many are more concerned about the kids "self esteem" rather then if they are learning anything. Was the teacher thoughless to post these comments....of course, but that doesn't negate the truth of the observations. The parents should be more concerned about the academic progress of the students not outraged that a teacher commented on the behavior of the little monsters the parents created.

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Peter Liss

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Bravo, Jim. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Yes, years ago, if a teacher had to call home about a student's bad behavior, the parents would usually see to it that the bad behavior would stop. Now the parents blame the teacher and say that there is a "personality conflict". I had a student who disrupted the class every day so that I couldn't even teach that class. Naturally, I fell further and further behind. The student should have been suspended from that class for a while, but the administration did NOTHING!!!

Jillian Waite

11:09 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Her comments are a tad over the top, but.....based on school scores all across the country (Some can't even read their diploma), Ms Munroe, might want to explore what she could do to make it better. The United States is lagging against other countries in many ways. No, don't fire her, provided she's ready to help make things better or whether she just wants to complain.
Jillian

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Bill Morley Sr

11:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If you think her comments are a tad over the top, you should hear some of the parents comments made to teachers Jillian.

Jillian Waite

11:10 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Her comments are a tad over the top, but.....based on school scores all across the country (Some can't even read their diploma), Ms Munroe, might want to explore what she could do to make it better. The United States is lagging against other countries in many ways. No, don't fire her, provided she's ready to help make things better or whether she just wants to complain.
Jillian

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Redadie

11:10 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think parents need to carefully look at their children to determine if they resemble any of the students she is speaking of and make the effort to discipline and train those children who have no idea how to behave in the classroom. Parents may also need to look in the mirror and honestly determine if they are one of those parents who think, "Oh, never my perfect child." Parents too often jump to defending their kids without looking at the whole picture. Sure--she was a little too blunt with her word choices, but let's face it, many kids in school today have no manners, no respect for their teachers and feel it is a waste of their time being in school with no idea of what will be facing them in the real world.

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sing

11:11 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Geez, I feel sorry for teachers. There are way too many kids who are ill mannered and lazy. I know because I have one here who never learned to respect anyone. And it's not because of bad parenting or bad teachers. He's just a product of this world. We finally had to homeschool him to keep him out of trouble. Plus, he never would have graduated from high school had we not supervised his studies. And that is not because the teachers weren't working hard with him. I knew everyone of them. I communicated with them all the time. Everyone of them were doing everything they could to get this boy to do his work. He's 22 now and still so disrespectful, no job, no money, and just recently started taking 1 college course. He may get a degree in 10 years. I say may.

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Bill Morley Sr

12:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Throw his lazy A-- out and make him survive on his own. That's whats wrong with parents they Molly cogg them instead of making them take responsiibility for themselfs.

kelley S.

11:13 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I completely understand how everyone feels whether they are for or against her. However she did not give any names or pin pointed to anyone particlular child. She was only merely expressing how kids are today. It was only the truth how she saw it. I believe she should be able to keep her job but on the other hand after all this I would decline do to how people are treating her and undermining her right to speak. I would find a job elsewhere.

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Bill Morley Sr

12:03 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Not is it the only truth as she saw it but it is really the whole truth the way most people see it but are affraid to say it. P.C. Is the problem with this country now. I hate it and will never be P.C. :)

Linda Danskin

11:15 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She was on a personal blog space, did some rantings that most of us do about our jobs/colleagues/clients from time to time (without naming names or classes). It doesn't make her a bad teacher, an insensitive teacher, and it doesn't rise to the level of even needing to be considered for firing. I'd MUCH rather have a teacher be honest with me about what's going on with my kid in the classroom (particularly if my kid is disrespectful, not doing the work, not putting in the effort, talking too much in class, etc.) that to simply give me a canned response on a report card. There are a lot of kids put into honor's classes that don't belong there (their parents push it because of wanting to get their kid into a particular college), or are smart enough to be there but just don't want to put in the extra effort an honor's class requires. There are a lot of kids in honor's classes that want to be there and want to learn; unfortunately for them, the others that are distractions keep the teacher busier with discipline/maintaining classroom control than teaching. The kids that want to be there and want to work are the losers. So what if the teacher lays down a rant about the "dark side" of teaching. Teacher's hands have been tied re discipline, parents don't support the teacher, and so the battle continues. The parents who are up in arms and the students that harass her are the ones who should be taken to task, not the teacher.
Oh...... and I'm not a teacher.

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colleen

11:24 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

No, she was on a public blog space--not a private or personal one.

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Christy Daley

11:29 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I completely agree. If I was a parent of one of her students, I would be doing my darndest to make sure my kid wasn't a part of the problem!

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Linda Danskin

11:31 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Colleen... she was on HER personal blog space. Yes, blogs are public. But it was HER blog. Not a general blog, thus her picture and blog name. She was writing about HER life as she sees and experiences it. She has a right to her opinions, whether you like how she states them. But it was her space to do it.

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Linda Danskin

11:37 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Mel: the comments didn't name names. It was a general rant that many teachers would like to make. We all rant at some time about what's going on in our lives. Just because she's a teacher doesn't mean she shouldn't have that right as well. If she had named names, then it would have been different. Maybe the kids and their parents that saw the rants and got the most upset were the very ones she was referring to, and they made the most noise about how awful it was. People blog about everything these days.

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Becky

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

When I was in High School if you didn't belong in an honors class you didn't go to an honors class. If your grades in that particular area weren't high enough you didn't make the cut. It was so the ones who deserved to be there could actually learn what they needed to. Mid year 1991-92 my History teacher thought I would be a good candidate for the AP class and the AP teacher agreed, however, it was mid year and I was doing very well in the class I was in it would be better for me in the long run to stay where I was as I would be too far behind the other students and it would be very difficult to catch up. I can agree there are both good and bad teachers. When it comes down to it if things are going bad they are blamed. They do not get credit when things are going well....those kudos are reserved for the school board. I know more parents who say they don't care how their kids act the teacher had better not say a word. It is these parents who are robbing their and other kids of an education. The teacher cannot do her job if the students go in with an attitude that they can do whatever they want and get away with it.

Don Eiges

11:16 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

First of all I would like to start by saying AMERICA FREEDOM OF SPEECH isn't that one of our amendment rights? Now lets get down to the bottom of this issue, nothing she has said is a lie, I'm sure she is talking straight from the heart. Yes it is the parents fault because no parent wants to believe that there angel of a child could ever be perceived this way. However parents wake the hell up, this all started when time outs were introduced as punishment, what kind of punishment is a time out. as cildren there needs to be consequences to suffer when you make bad choices and what kind of consequence is a time out? Really... A good ass whopping is what is missing in our society these days. If we were to go back to disciplining our children the way we used to instead of being affraid to then our society would be a much better place to live. You voted in the people who are running our conutry and they aren't doing the job right either, so yes it starts with the parents WAKE up and smell the coffee your kids are freaking brats and this has been brought to your attention by someone who probably spends more time with them each week than you do. so maybe it is time to smarten up and realize you as parents have failed and do something about it.......

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Mel

11:25 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I so Agree with you that time outs are no way the best way to punish kids, but now days someone sees you spank your kids and you are abusing your kids and then they call the cops on you and everything else!!! but I really don't think that she should have put that stuff on for the public to see!!!

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denise

1:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

there is a difference between parents disciplining and an unprofessional educator venting abusive thoughts about the CHILDREN she teaches!

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todd

1:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Hell ya, we need to return to ass whoopings. no i don't mean abusing kids but a good couple whacks on the ass will tell them to tighten up. i got them when i was in school and if my parents found out about it, i got another one when i got home. do i hate my teachers from my school days? No i RESPECT them. do i hate my parents for the spankings i got at home? NO!!! I RESPECT them too and i teach my kids the same way. my kids are 20 and 17 and they still know today that if i hear them being disrespectful to ANYONE, let alone someone in authority, then well, they know better, and i truely hope they bring their kids up the same way.

rick j

11:16 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I may have missed it but did she mention them by name? If so it could be slander but she does have freedom of speech.She is just telling it like it is now.Students just expect to be pushed along and reward for sub standard work.Most cannot add or subtract without a calculator.Then they go into the work field and expect to be paid for sub standard work

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Karen

12:56 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I could not agree with you more, Rick. I work as a manager at a fast food resturant and encounter those kids everyday. Alot of kids these days have no work ethics because they were never taught any. They were handed every thing without every earning it and that is what they expect when they are at work, to get paid for nothing. Many come to work improperly dressed, come in late or constantly call in sick or ask to go home early, they refuse to follow policies and procedures and could care less whether they do a good job or not. They take no initiative to see what needs to be done and jump in to help. And when told they need to, I'm the bad guy. Heaven help me if I ask them to clean the restroom or take out the trash, that is beneath them and how dare that I expected them to do that. I'm just picking on them if I do ask. Thank God that most of them don't stay very long because they just can't cut it, but of course it's our fault they quit. They figure they'll just go out and find another job. After all who won't want to hire them. My thought to them is "Good ridence and don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out." I feel sorry for their next employer and hope that someday they grow up and see the value of good work ethics. I must also add that not all of them are this way. I have worked with some wonderful teenagers who I highly value as an employee. I just wish there were more of them.

Gail Cesario

11:17 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Unfortunately, Facebook, or any other site is definitely NOT the place to air personal views. This so called 'teacher' is a disgrace to the profession, and I, for one, being an educator AND parent, would prefer she NOT continue working in the district. I'm all for free speech, but there IS a limit.....and online conversations and opinions are certainly NOT the place to air personal grievances!! Sure glad my kids are adults and out of the public education system. Makes me wonder just what kind of people they are hiring to teach our kids?????!!!!!!

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Star

12:07 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Not to be nit-picky but you just aired online a conversation and opinion, which if I am not mistaken is your personal grievance about Ms. Munroe.....
Tell me again why she is so much worse than you?

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Melissa Marston-Holzhauer

12:55 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If she didn't name a particular student she is well within her rights. Further, It had nine followers; by making it public, "you who feel they must regulate everyone else's personal liberties," made it a much larger issue and likely did more to embarrass students. why should she, simply because she is a teacher, have her freedoms limited? She has ZERO performance issues, and it's a great school record so clearly she was doing well at work.
Don't get me wrong, I as an educator, would not make the same choice, but I defend her right as long as anonymity was used. I personally think anyone who needs to use curse words shows their true temperament and intelligence, those of us with a wider vocabulary don't rely on profanity to voice outrage.
The clip art is incredibly offensive-- that could be seen as hate toward those with special needs and should be of concern, but only if her actions against those populations show disdain as well. However, I would guess she was not truly speaking of those actually afflicted by special needs but those who are stupid because they choose to be and have no manners and no breeding. I too want to smack them at times-- I find their stupidity to be personally offensive given the talents and abundance they have been blessed with.

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Karen

1:15 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Uhh, excuse me Gail, but this also is an online site and you too are airing a personal opinion and grievance about someone. Does free speech only apply to you and those who agree with you? I don't think so. Maybe you should take a good look in a mirror before you place judgement on something that you too are guilty of.
"Let those who are without sin cast the first stone."

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DLC

1:26 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Gail~ I agree with you. After reading the posts, it looks like we are in the minority. With all of the Social Media available today, it is too easy to log on and post your feelings, rants, everyday life events, without thinking about the long term effects of what was posted, and how it will affect others. I personally could see how a teenager might blow off steam, or rant about teachers or classmates, because they are still learning how to navigate in the world. BUT, a teacher, or any other professional for that matter, should know where to draw the line. They need to take a breath and ask themselves, how would I feel if I had a teacher, or any other professional ranting on their personal blog/website about how awful their students/clientele are, even if names are not disclosed? If this teacher had a problem with her students, there are other lines of professional communication that she could have used. It could have been addressed within her school, but she blogged, and brought it on the world stage.

Daniel

11:17 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I wish there were more teachers like her. Kids are more lazy these days phyiscally and mentally. Kids need more guidance and honest comments to put them on the right path. It's people like the ones above that have help screwed up this great nation. Parents can't even discipline their on kids or teachers can't be honest with students in fear of a child's feelings being hurt and them retaliating and by having their parents arrested and good teachers fired because they can't handle the ways that it use to be. Kids are too soft these days and most parents are too lazy to deal with their kids, thats why they are the way they are. Parents don't want to admit they have failed at being a parent!!!!

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Barnegat Ray

1:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As the world becomes ever difficult, the parents need to be more mindful how they raise and teach their children...
http://DadsInCourt.blogspot.com/

Mel

11:18 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She should not in no way be a Teacher on Gods green Earth!!! she should have never said that on a blog or anything else!!! she should be fired on the spot. I don't care if you like the kids or not that is not right to say anything about them. It is the same as cyber bullying them. You are a leader for them minds and not someone to show them that it is ok to say bad things about them!!!! and to make fun of some one with disability's you Mrs Monroe should be very ashamed of your self! YOU are a very, very bad mother if you were my mom I would hate to call you that!!! You are the one that don't know how to raise your children by showing them this kind of stuff!!!!

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Linda Danskin

11:40 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

You sound like a teenager. Cyber bullying is specific comments to a specific person. This teacher's blog didn't come anywhere close to that -- she didn't name names or even which class she was referring to. I fear you doth protest to much!

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Rhonda Hooks-Andres

1:01 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

After reading your post, I have to wonder how you did in school! You should have paid better attention in English class! The new generations are leaving our schools with less than an adequate education for what the real world needs and expects. Teachers cannot teach students that refuse to pay attention, and have zero respect for authority, their peers, or even themselves. Parents are not doing their children any favors by ignoring their behavior and letting them get away with acting like uncivilized freaks! Pull up your pants, learn some respect for yourself and others, and the adult world will welcome you with open arms!

Warren Garrison

11:19 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

oh hell, I'd be upset too if I was reminded what a pathetic excuse of a parent I had been to turn out a child that was disrespectful, rebellious, unappreciative, vulgar, immoral, and basically worthless in todays world. Most parents should have been prevented from having a child, they didn't have the brains or even the spine to raise on to be beneficial to this world or even to themselves. The over all results of the Liberal time out and "here kid, take another Ritilin to calm you down", or "here's $20 bucks, go away and don't bother me", has given us a generation of kids who are just totally and completely worthless. And i don't have to say it, they know it, if they didn't they wouldn't be killing themselves in such large numbers. All they have to live for on a daily basis is sexting and texting.

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fj krolikowski

11:19 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Bravo! Perhaps parents should try to understand the other side of the coin. Teachers are human. They respond to others. Perhaps these others i.e. the students should act in an appropriate way and gain the teacher's respect. We did! Alas, times have changed and the student and parent are always correct. NOT!!!

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Kelleen Marie Thaxton

1:47 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

In my 8 years of teaching, I have found ways to develop rapport with most students -- even many unmotivated, combative ones who can give a teacher a hard time. That said, I TRULY feel for this teacher. The article said she was a pretty new teacher. She is obviously not practiced in keeping frustrations in check, and when a young new teacher is easily rattled, even good kids/students will smell that weakness, circle like sharks and eat the teacher alive. I witnessed this firsthand, when teaching in an open classroom next to a 1st-year math teacher at a junior high. This teacher had a beginning algebra class full of a frightful number of troublemakers, slackers, and kids with little respect for anyone, and directly afterward, an advanced algebra class with 3/4 of its roster made up of some bright, normally motivated and relatively respectful students. Early in the year, she lost control of the unruly class (it was unconscionable of the admin. to schedule that mix of students together in the class of a brand new teacher), and they realized they could disrespect her and frustrate her, and as a group made a game of wasting the entire class period. Her adv. class was doing OK, until frustration and, yes, fear of being blatantly disrespected in her own classroom by a bunch of teenagers became known to them; by the 3rd month of school, this class was also mayhem and at the end of the year a huge majority of the kids had failed and she had become embittered toward students in general.

Gail Cesario

11:19 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Many of you are MISSING THE POINT!!! Go back and re-read what you wrote.....it's NOT about speaking negativity, it's about WHERE IT'S BEING AIRED!!!

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Colleen

2:27 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

yeah... personal blog is not the place to write your personal things! I guess I missed that memo!

lynn

11:19 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Now this is a pissed off women. Any time you are willing to make very negitive comments publicly about anyone you WANT them to know how your feeling about them. So i say let her return because free speech has a price hanging over it's head. She is going to experience first hand how it feels to hear someone say such mean hateful negitive comments about herself. Nothing like being in the mix of negitivity on a DAILY basis. Yes teachers today have to deal with way to many issues in school than ever before, i was once considering being a teacher but recognized it wasn't for me. I think this woman has some growing up to do and why not find out first hand how dangerous words can be.

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Linda Danskin

11:43 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes, she used her personal blog space (not work related blog space) to vent. She wasn't mean spirited to any particular student and didn't name names. But what you are suggesting people to do to her is very person specific. Maybe the kids and parents that are most upset are the ones that were the troublemakers in her class. And we all have growing up to do.

colleen

11:21 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think one point that people are totally missing is that this teacher seems to have no hope or tolerance for her students. Her attitutude towards them is so negative that it will affect her ability to teach. She seems to hate her job. In the private sector, a company wouldn't keep an employee that showed such disdain for the job. She is such a negative force. She not only spoke negatively about the students but she also criticized the other teachers. If she gets fired she will probably keep her paycheck so let her go back to school and finally figure out that she needs a new career that she can tolerate better. Maybe she didn't know that teaching would involve working with kids? It's unfair to the students. I think we have all has "that" teacher haven't we?

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Linda Danskin

11:46 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The article says she talked about her colleagues; it didn't say she criticized them. I don't think it has anything to do about how she feels about kids in general; she was venting about the troublemakers that keep her from doing her job. I've had frustrated teachers before, but I didn't make the situation worse by being disruptive or disrespectful in or out of class. I wanted to learn, and a lot of the kids in my class just wanted to goof off and cause problems. That's what the teacher had to spend time dealing with; I was the one that lost out. Yes, it's unfair to the students WHO WANT TO LEARN, but not to the kids that cause the problems.

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lynn

11:49 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Amen colleen you hit the nail on the head! She has no tolerance for others. Quite frankly i feel sorry for her kids.

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Joe Turner

12:39 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I hate to be cynical, but when she posted her first name and last initial, plus her photo, she may have had something else in mind...like starting a blog that is now popular, with paid ads attached. That way she can stay at home and raise her two kids. Why is she so unpopular with her colleagues? Eating alone seems to be rather odd. Also, if she's an English teacher, she can find the vocabulary to express the same idea without the street language. It would be a good exercise in an English class: Find a more acceptable way to say 'Your kid's an asshole' but get across the same idea. Maybe she should try it!

Jessica Espo

11:22 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

you know this is so aggravating, the way the job market is right now and this woman has the nerve to publicly complain about her students, fire her! fire her now! You know, everyone complains about there job every once in a while, but do that privately w/ your fam or friends, I would think a teacher would be smarter than that. People really need to equate an online blog, post, or whatever to standing around in reality and actually saying these things. I'm sure if her employer or parent of said children were in earshot she wouldn't be so loose w/ her tongue. Why become a teacher if you obviously don't truly love it. If you did it wouldn't propel you to take to the web to bash your students. You mean to tell me when she decided, at some point in her life, to become an educator, that she thought all her students would be model citizens?? That's realistic, and if that's how her thought process works do you really want that being passed on through Academia? Children come w/ baggage when they enter school, who knows whats going on in there young lives. For some kids, school is the only escape from household problems, and to be greeted by such a pessimistic educator, what chance do they have, the kids really don't stand a chance....

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Andy Scontrino

11:24 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes. it's about time some of these teachers let the parents know how dumb their kids really are.My hat goes off to you lady. It's the parents who don't care .

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emily

11:26 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

First off, Freedom of Speech. Isn't everyone entitled to voice their frustrations? And not only that, but her initial blog only had 9 followers...I can see why she wasn't worried about repercussions. And in this world of parents who don't really discipline their children (or get involved in their schooling), 'mean girls', and bullying (which, in my opinion is the politically correct term for 'complete and utter jerk', well - the truth hurts! Rather than attack the teacher, the parents should me more concerned with why this teacher would say those things about their child. It's too bad she didn't feel like she could talk to the parents about their child, it was a poor choice to vent about in public (even if the public is only 9 people).

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erin

11:29 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Kudos to Ms Munroe for expressing what so many will not. I think we should be focusing on "firing" the students who are in her classroom distracting the others from learning. There should be consequences for student bad behavior which should also impact the parents. What happened to personal responsibility? Why do we expect a single teacher to parent a classroom of 30-40 students????

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Bill Viola

11:39 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

You, my dear, are an idiot

David Glenn Allen

11:31 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yo,Natalie-we don't need to say EVERYTHING we think.

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Liesl

11:32 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

A lot of these negative comments are written by people who have never been in the classroom. I taught one year -- thanks God -- and got OUT. The students were okay, but the administration was dreadful. The biology teacher smoked pot in the closet off the lab. New teachers got the biggest disciplinary problems and little help from the administration. The principal told me if there was a choice between teaching the children or keeping them quiet (I had been working with them in committees, so of course there was conversation), keeping them quiet was the choice. I was not suited to work in this strait-jacketed environment, and it doesn't seem as though Ms. Munroe is either. Most of the people I worked with were just putting in time -- the sad but true adage of "those who can, do; those who can't, teach." Yes, there are dedicated teachers. You can count their number on one hand in any given school district. Like any other job, it's just a job if you don't love it. I resigned at the end of the school year that first year and went on to a successful career as far away from the teaching field as I could get. Perhaps she should do the same.

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L Jenkins

12:08 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

That "sad but true adage" you speak of that has been used to slam teachers for years was never intended to refer to teachers. It was spoken by George Bernard Shaw in reference to the Socialist movement. He was saying that if you could not personally work as an activist for the movement, then teach others how to. I want to scream every time I see an uninformed person use the quote as a way to disparage teachers.

V. Hartman

11:33 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She is right, I wouldnt give you two cents for kids education today or their desire to receive one. Kids, most of them are "assholes" in today world. Really need more corpal punishment and no "kids rights". Also need good teachers and not teachers unions.

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Linda

11:34 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I'm all for expressing yourself but she was very unprofessional about it. She could have gotten her point across leaving out some of the derogetory remarks. What is she 10. I think she needed to be more selective with her phrases. There was no need to bring the Special Ed comments into it. What a slam to the family of special needs kids. Bad taste for sure! Yes, parents (some) in our society need to step up and get involved, but I deal with kids in a school setting also and while there are challenges, I would never go that far as to berate and demean anyone. Maybe she should pick a different profession.

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kim keesler

11:34 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes this teacher has the right to express her opinion, BUT there surely would have been a more professional way of doing so.

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denise

11:34 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

she is worse than any of her students, it is educators like this who make difficult students into dysfunctional adults!

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williamg

11:35 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It remind's me of a Chaplin I had in the service many moon's ago..I asked him what was the bad part of being a Chaplin. and he said "Preaching at a funeral and having to say nice thing's about the deceased whome I knew to be a tolal scoundral"..Even back then this politically correct thing was evident..

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j

11:36 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Hey all, my kids go to CB East and one of my children had the misfortune of sitting in her class for two semesters. Long before this blog came out I had daily reports of her rude, nasty behavior toward students. To name a few...she ridiculed an obese child in the class and would not allow him to sit in a regular chair, and humiliated a child with irritable bowel syndrome in front of the class. I would have reported her way back then but my daughter was terrified of becoming her next victim. So listen up...come visit this district and see what these kids have accomplished. Most of them volunteer their time in the community and abroad, are accepted into top colleges by their own merit, are eagle scouts, and leaders of their communities. She was trouble from day one of her teaching position. Do not lump these kids into the dump she has placed them. These kids are above average in every area academically and socially. She is just a loser who hated her job, nothing more!!! My last child at CB East who is a senior this year WILL NOT be a member of her class this year, and if CB East tries to place him there they will see the likes of a lawsuit even she could not provoke. And no my senior is a bright respectful member of the community not a whiney teenager whose parents don't know how to raise. So far she has whined and complained more than her students ever could. The pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it!

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denise

12:05 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

she should have her teaching credentials <(sp) pulled immediately! Her comments and feelings are abusive and ineffective to the children and educational process! c"mon people we need to protect our kids!

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TIPLady

1:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Teachers, children, parents are all people!

We are all flawed!! None of us are perfect. Were her comments appropriate on her blog? Probably, not. But is she entitled to her thoughts? Yes she is. My personal feeling is TEACH THEM OR LEAVE THEM ALONE!!! Do teachers have biases? Yes, they do!! This just brings that point to the forefront. I think that teachers should step aside if their own personal attitudes are impairing their ability to TEACH. If you think that you and my child don't mesh, call me, I will be more than happy to save my child from you. If you feel that you do not have the ability to impact children who have been placed in your care, make it possible for them to be placed in the care of someone who respects them and will teach them. If there is mutual respect learning CAN and Does HAPPEN.

There is no teacher on the planet who can truthfully say that they don't have kids who are a challenge. However, their willingness to address those challenges and place those biases on back burner is what make some people exeptional educators.

The teacher must be willing to teach and the students must be willing to learn. ~The TIPLady

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James Checo

1:53 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

J, I'll bet you are one of those bleeding heart liberals that think that everything your kid does is above average and extraordinary. Teachers are handed these groups of kids that don't want to learn and don't have to behave, because if little johnny gets bad marks and doesn't get along with his teacher, damit that school will do what i say or i will sue them. Good luck with that. What a great way to show your kids how the world works. When little johnny get out in the real world where he has to listen to what his boss says or he will be waiting in a very long unemployment line. People like you need to quit criticizing the teachers and get in their and help. I know I have had kids come home and say bad things about a teacher, but being a rational person i got involved and figured out that the kids were just lazy and made excuses for their behavior. Wake up and smell the coffee, the job market isn't getting easier and little johnny isn't getting any smarter.

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Karen

2:19 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

HEY YOU, if you were getting dailey reports for two semesters, why were you not becoming PART OF THE SOLUTION instead of PART OF THE PROBLEM. Your statement, " I would have reported it way back then but my daughter was terrified of being the next victim" is assinine. Who is the adult here? Maybe if you HAD REPORTED it there would have been NO MORE VICTIMS. How would you feel if the shoe was on the other foot and your daughter was the one being abused and another parent knew about it and did nothing. I'm sure you would have been enraged.
Think about it. You should be ashamed of yourself. Come on parents, good example of WHY PARENTS NEED TO BE INVOLVED with their childrens lives. As PARENTS and ADULTS it is our responsibility to protect and guide all children, not just our own.

patricia hess

11:37 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

And this is why I will NEVER join a social network! Keep your comments, no matter how "true" you think they are, TO YOURSELF! They still can't punish you for what you THINK! Not yet, at least! You don't say this kind of stuff in public! Teachers are PUBLIC employees and until you run YOUR OWN SCHOOL, you can't do this! She shouldn't go back! Try something else a little "less stressful"!

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John Fielder

11:39 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

You must try to teach one to someone that is there to test your wll . You can not teach
some one that is unwilling to learn. You have 47 min.per class to share the subject matter. The problem kids take away from the kids willing to learn,the lazy and the ones
stealling class room time make it impossable to teach subject matter. That where magenet schools come about.Every class room has there jerks

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Kim

11:39 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She doesn't eat with her co-workers, because they don't like her. She states that the kids don't like her. Does she think for ONE minute, there is a problem with her?! Sounds to me like this witch needs to get a difference job, maybe customer service.

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Victor Meadows

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Try teaching and see if you agree with her. You may have offended the "witches" of America. Heaven (oops!) forbid.

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M. Levin

12:46 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes, it is very important to be LIKED... Never mind that you are competent , involved and expect these little jerks to EARN their way in life. We need to make sure that "there is no wrong answer", that everyone gets a tropy for "just showing up" and that (get this).. a friend of mine -- teacher -- was told that grading papers in red ink was considered to "HARSH" and to use a different color.!!!!!!!??? WTF ??? We are breeding a nation of spinless, egomaniacal, self-centered, weak, whining, brats whose parents dont have the balls to step in and PARENT these little perfect works of art... When it all goes to hell, it is the teachers fault ! REALLY??? This teacher doesnt need a job in customer service, she needs to get a job counseling the parents..... I am in the medical field and I would rather spend 12 hours wiping butt than eight hours "baby sitting" ( that is what teaching has become) these lazy, dull minded , out of control, entitled offspring.

Suzanne

11:42 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It is usually when the thoughts and opinions hit too close to home that people who state their mind are attacked. People got their feelings hurt since for once someone told them something they are in denial about, so instead of fixing what is wrong they would rather remove the person that is shining a light on it and letting others see it as well. After all this was her PERSONAL blog that was brought into the public eye by vindictive students who were probably the subjects of her frustration!!

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denise

12:08 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

There is nothing PERSONAL about a blog!

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Victor Meadows

12:22 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Sounds like our President and Senate!

Lon

11:42 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This is nothing.
These people calling for her head, should have experienced some of the teachers I had back in the '50's. They would be arrested these days from the beatings we had. And I don't mean just the paddle.
Bunch of whiney pansies.

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Amanda Jo Johnson

1:55 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yea that sounds like a sophisticated and incredible resolution. Let's go back to the 50's when it's not applicable, and use the fear, intimidation, and "I'm bigger than you" method- and ignore ALL of the human developmental/behavior research that has been refereed and journaled and that the "teachers" know NOTHING about!!!!!!!!! Blame the children!! That'll do it!!! Is that what got us here to our current educative state????

denise

11:43 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

would anyone of you parents want this women molding your child?

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Staberdearth

11:51 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As a matter fo fact, I would. It has been my experience through three children growing up from Kindergarten on through high school graduation that folks like you tend to be those who think that their little Johnny or Josephine can do not wrong and it is everyone else who is at fault. I know the type and can spot them from across the PTA room! We had a local congressman and his lawyerly wife constantly go into denial over the fact that indeed their child was a complete unmannerly bunghole! You should have seen the act that they'd put on. Worthy of some of the crapola we see in Congress!

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lynn

11:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

No denise no way i would have let her teach my kids. Some of the kids ARE BAD but some of the teachers are worse.

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denise

12:19 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I know for a fact my little Johnny can run with the best of them, however these are our children, not the enemy! We can only breed cowards who name call and put down others on "Personal" blogs when we think that stuff like this is appropriate. I am all for disciplining our children but it needs to be done out of love and understanding not personal frustration!

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dawn delaney enos

1:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes, I would. The best teachers I have had were ones who told me that I wasn't performing up to my ability. That stung, but they helped me get moving in the right direction! The kids today are coddled and spoiled and made to think that they cando no wrong. I blame the parents for allowing their kids to be disrespectful of authority. I have witnessed some kids speaking to teachers and adults in such disrespectful ways that it made me cringe. Parents- wake up some tough love foryour kids can go a long way toward helping them mature so that they can be functional, mannerly adults, not spoiled,overindulged bores!

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Dee Brown

1:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Denise, I never expected ANY teacher to mold my child, that was my job as a parent. I expected a teacher to teach, whether it was math, English, spelling or tiddly-winks. I did expect a teacher to let me know about misbehavior, disruption or disrespect from my child so that I could decide the appropriate consequences for my child.

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denise

12:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

not when you're a public employeeeeeeeeee

BillDog

11:49 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Of course,her comments are 100% accurate but,parents and bureacratic administrators simply don't want to hear it. The truth hurts and "you can't handle the truth"!

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bruce

12:04 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Sounds like she is te pot calling the kettle black

bruce

11:50 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

if sh just wanted to vent why do it where she knows she has followers, why not write in a diary or in a word program. I agree kids can be awful. I agree some parents should have been fixed. But i also believe as any public employee you are held to a standard. I remember some of my terachers treating me different, and knowing. She is human, and these blogs are just enforcing her hateful feeling towards these kids.

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dawn delaney enos

1:15 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I wonder why she developed " hateful feelings" about these students? Probably because they were being rude and disrespectful and expected everything to be handed to them without any work on their part. Also, whaqt higher standard are you thinking that any public employee is held to? The only standard they hold to are their generous benefits and THEIR entitlements! What goes around, comes around!

Betsy

11:50 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Alright, here is my thoughts from the parental and professional point of view - going hand in hand. Her remarks are true. However, the way she chose to vent was inappropriate and unprofessional. Could she have said something about being frustrated with not being able to motivate her students? Yes. It is an educator's job to motivate and educate. If you can't reach a child, you can't teach a child. It is also an incredible pressure for educators, and parents expect them to jump through hoops for their child. That expectation often leads to failure because no matter how hard that teacher works and cares, he/she cannot please everyone. That is when parents need to take responsibility for their thoughts and actions, too. Our educational system is flawed, but only because those who can't teach, make the laws about teaching. If this teacher was struggling, where was the administration? They need to be supporting their teachers. If they do that, their job of disciplining students should become easier. But, again, parents also need to be open minded about what a teacher shares. Do teachers like telling parents there is bad behavior, learning concerns, etc? No. But if they aren't honest about their observations, then they aren't doing their job. If all the support from parents and admin had been in place, maybe she wouldn't have had to vent. The blame doesn't lie on this teacher, but on many.

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Victor Meadows

12:20 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

How does one motivate a "rock"? I struggled with that for 38 years. There are many children that will never be motivated. I tried every trick that I knew to motivate. Like "Mama/Dad" many times like "child". How do we motivate the adults to get off their backsides and to to work? 50% not paying any taxes. No wonder the children don't care in school. Let the government take care of them.
Note: I had a child who put on his future goals that his future goal was "welfare". What a goal! (It was a 14 year old student.)

Ken Engelbrecht

11:51 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As a teacher I say good for you Ms Munroe. Many of these kids, like their parents, are lazy jerks. To many kids think just because they are there it entitles them to a passing grade. These are the ones later that are unemployed and supported by the system. If you work hard and want to learn, which many do, it is an honor to teach, but when you have smart mouthed girls and boys that think they are special and do not need to work then there is a problem and it is not the teacher!

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denise

12:26 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

dont you think Ms. Munroe had an obligation to inform the parents directly and not the world. Doesn't seem like a real smart individual to make such a decision (should someone so dull be teaching our youth?)

RICHARD BERKHIMER

11:51 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I have worked both Public and Catholic Schools. Public Schools are to egar to sweep thinks under the rug not to offend parents. Catholic Schools take a much more no nonsense side. Miss Monroe did nothing wrong, and has every right to be frustrated with the Public school system. If you parents ever knew what and how yr. children are acting in School you would be shocked.Miss Monroe I as a parent and a former School employee wish there were more teachers like you. Hang in there, Dont let the public School system get you down. I for one would want to know if my child was acting like a jerk or had a bad attitude. GO BACK TO WORK THE GOOD CHILDREN NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!!
FROM RICHARD BERKHIMER GLENSIDE PA

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reed wan

11:51 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

jessica --nowhere in her blog does she talk about special needs children. She is talking about the lazy stupid brats that our school systems are infected with--- again because of VERY LOUSY PARENTING. I personally think because the sxchools are overrun with these (brata) that the shcools should have a mantdatory program to teach respect and integrity and honesty, and the students who aren't passing the class-- their parents should have to attend (mandatory)

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teacherwonder

11:52 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

What? A bit of humour and honesty in her comments and she gets blasted. I LOVE what she had to say and how she worded it. (OK, maybe the little illustrative cartoon about being special was in poor taste, but to each his own) WE NEED MORE TEACHERS LIKE HER ...ALTHOUGH I WISH THEY REALLY COULD SAY IT LIKE IT IS AND NOT ALWAYS BE POLITICALLY CORRECT.
kudos to you, Natalie!

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Victor Meadows

12:15 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I taught civics and I hated "politcally correcness"! I never used it.

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Kim Talbott-Flores

12:20 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Thank you! I want my boys teachers to be honest with me. Tell me if they are goofing off, being disrespectful, not participating... I want to know! If I don't know, I have to assume they are behaving as I taught them. If they are not, BUST THEM!! Cannot fix if I don't know. I have always been honest with their teachers. One will do the minimum w/o being pushed, one will not tell you if he is bored, will just score great with little effort. I tell them, and I follow up. Would appreciate frankness from teachers. Will not hurt my feeling.

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denise

12:46 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

there's nothing educational about putting your foot in your mouth!

Dee Brown

11:52 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I don't have any experience as a teacher so I cannot truly empathize with Ms. Munroe, but I have raised two children and as a parent, I completely and totally support her actions. I taught my children that showing respect to those in charge was of the upmost importance, no matter what the circumstances. I would get calls occasionally regarding my son's behavior. At one point, I asked the principal of the middle school if he still had a paddle in his office, he confirmed he did. I gave him permission to take my child back into the class and administer '3 licks' with the paddle in front of the rest of the class. He refused, due to school 'policy'. I asked if I would be allowed to, again the answer was no. My son was no angel, but looked up to by most other students. If the principal would have 'busted him or allowed me to, in front of the class, one, it would have shown the other students that noone is allowed to do this and two, it would teach my son that there are consequences to his actions. There were always consequences at home if I received word of any disrespectful behavior from teachers. The biggest problem I see today is that as one generation to the next, we become more and more 'entitled' or spoiled. There are no real consequences presented to unacceptable behavior during our children's adolescent years and as a society, we are either too lazy to deal with it or too afraid of 'legal' reprocussions from 'big brother's watch dogs' to consider it.

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Victor Meadows

12:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It sounds like you'd make a great teacher! Teaching starts in the home! I taught for 38 years and just retired. Loved it!

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Dee Brown

12:15 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As I said in my original comment, I have no experience as a teacher, but I do as a select team baseball coach. During the ten years of coaching, I had a number of players that displayed the type of behavior Ms. Munroe seemed to be blogging about. It came from all different types, some you would expect it from and others you would not. As I often told my children while they were growing up, raising children is not an exact science and that I was doing the best I could. The one thing I NEVER did though, was rely on the school system, other coaches, or other parents to teach my offspring right from wrong. I had those instances early on in coaching where we as coaches, could tell when a parent had thrown their child into our baseball program to let us serve as 'baby-sitters'. Those kids were the most respectful of all, craving attention from an adult, needing the mentoring and some of the most disrespectful ones came from families that gave them everything, including the idea that they were the be-all: end-all to everything. Perhaps Ms. Munroe could have used a bit more tact, but I tend to be the same way. Being tactful and walking on 'egg-shells' about what we say, doesn't have the same affect as being straight-forward. Children are a product of their environment, that environment begins at home and extends to the friends they run with. As they get older, if you look at the crowd they run with, you can almost see their future.

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Dee Brown

12:59 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Mr. Meadows I appreciate the kind words and I have even considered becoming a teacher/coach as I get on in years. I'm afraid it would be for selfish reasons though, the baseball coaching. I loved it and I miss it. On the other hand too, I don't know that I would have the patience to put up with nor the 'political correctness' that it would take to be a successful 'classroom' teacher. The parents of disruptive students would have their feelings (pride is more like it) hurt by my 'blunt' approach to behavioral problems. I had an instance while coaching a select 15 and 16 year old team where I let the 'team' vote and have a say-so in the fate of two of their teammates after the two had shown unacceptable behavior during a game. One of the players was also a school-mate to several of the players. They voted to continue the season without him on the team. The parents of the player voted off, of course were outraged that I let his peers help in the decision. They, at the time, felt I had damaged him for life. Basically, they crawled in bed with him and told him I was wrong. They informed me that they were only kids and shouldn't have had that type of decision handed to them. My question to them was at what age do they begin to become 'young men'? I already considered them as young men and that the team was theirs, not mine as I was only there to help them learn how to improve upon the skills they possessed and how to respect the game itself. Life is much the same way

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Amanda Jo Johnson

1:45 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Have you researched how effective shame, punishment, fear, and intimidation tends to effect your child in the long run? Of course there are consequences- those are the only ones we can come up with? Are they conducive to the ultimate goal? Or are they convenient as your power, control, and parental "image" seems to be quite a focus in your statement. But, at least this guy thinks you're "good" as he "taught" for 38 years in our country that declination in quality has been consistent and alarming, and he loved it!!! Yessssssssssssss!

shelia

11:52 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

IT IS HARD ENOUGH FOR KIDS TODAY AND TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH SUCH A NEGATIVE PERSON WOULD BE HORRIFIC!!! I HAD POSITIVE TEACHERS WHO TRIED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN KIDS LIVES. SEEMS LIKE TO ME SHE HAS THE PROBLEM. I WOULD NOT ALLOW HER TO TEACH MY CHILDREN OR HAVE ANY SAY SO OVER THEIR FUTURE. THERE ARE STILL SOME GREAT TEACHERS...BOOT HER BEFORE SHE RUINS THE REPUTATION OF THOSE WHO DO CARE. WORDS HAVE POWER AND THEY MOLD PEOPLES BELIEFS ABOUT THEMSELVES....GET RID OF HER. I FEEL SORRY FOR HER OWN CHILDREN...THEY BETTER BE PERFECT.

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Nabob

11:58 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Turn off the caps. Makes you sound like an idiot screaming.

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Victor Meadows

12:13 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I like positive people also, but the truth cannot be ignored.

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Julie

12:30 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

A teacher can care and still get put out with disrespectful brats that idoit parents believe to be angels send to school! Do you never complain about your job or people that you have to deal with? she was venting, she has a right! btw from your post do dont sound like a ray of sunshine... hey pot the kettle is calling! lol

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dawn delaney enos

1:31 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Wow- If you think that one teacher giving your brat a hard time is going to ruin them forever, how will they make it in the big, bad world of work, where their lazy, sullen attitude will do them no good?! This idea of it being "hard enough for kids today" is such garbage! Whats so hard about today? They all have cell phones, ipods, etc. Give me a break!

Staberdearth

11:53 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She gets full support from me based on the story as is. There is FAR FAR FAR too much catering mamby pambyism in schools and it all started way back in the 60's.

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denise

12:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

some mamby pamby(abuse) may be taking place on part of the parents at home, so now who do our children turn to Staberdearth, Ms. Munroe who thinks they're assholes?

alex

11:53 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

im so tired of being censored, 1. she didnt name the school she was referring to, 2. she didnt point out the students so how could she be hurtful? a blog is where you can vent, and maybe it keeps her from breaking down and telling the students face to face how she really feels. Kids are so rude and disrespectful these days, ive been a student in a class room where a students tried to harm the teachers. where is their protection? i think she was within her rights to speak as she did. Ive always said that i would never want to be a teacher, they are paid horribly for a tough job, kids "like many of their parents" are a-holes. frankly it seems that she was sought out to be exposed. Im so tired of this whole Big Brother, voyeuristic society we now live in, sheesh, can we live our lives freely? pretty soon we'll be black listing

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denise

12:52 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

maybe the unruley students feel the same...

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Barbara Hawley Berka

1:35 am on Friday, July 29, 2011

No one is censoring anyone. People are free to say whatever the hell they want but it may come back to bite them in the ass, as it has in the case of Ms. Munroe's blog. She made it clear that she is an insensitive boor who must resort to name calling and stoop to the level of a schoolyard bully with her extremely cruel and callous cartoon about children with disabilities. May her newborn child be blessed with no such problems.

It's shocking to hear she is, of all things, an English teacher and even moreso that , she teaches advanced English. If this simplistic, insulting blog is the most creative way she can write about her experience as a teacher, she really needs to find another field of interest. It's also noticeable that many of the people defending her, completely ignore her despicable act of making fun of special needs
kids..Where is the compassion for these students, who are certainly not unmotivated but rather brain injured? There is nothing wrong with a teacher trying to communicate her thoughts about her personal frustrations as a teacher,, to describe the lack of parental involvement she has observed, to, seek answers as to how to better motivate students.... but to make blanket assumptions about parents, call students insulting names, and pick on kids who did not ask to be born with cognitive impairments is is not a very intelligent way of getting her point across. It shows meanspiritedness, a lack of depth and is an insult to all good teachers.

lynn

11:54 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Here's the other side to this, employers are now looking up your background on these blog sites and i promise you with all the controversy surrounding her she's going to have a hard time getting employed any were else.

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bruce

12:03 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

A web site should be set up, just like the pedofile ones, to keep bad teachers from comming to your city. This so called woman should be blackballed,

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denise

12:34 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

should of thought about that befor bashing children...

Charlotte Meyer

11:55 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She'd last a minute at a Charter School. This is an example of why the profession needs tenure reform. Parents can get lawyers too.
CM

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tami

11:58 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Parents can get lawyers? What is that supposed to mean? I guess you are one of those sue-happy people? If your kid is not named, what is there to sue over?

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bruce

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Tami, you would or would protect your children. if it take a lawsuit then so be it. lets drain the school system of more money because a MANAGEMENT TEACHER could not fire one of its kind!

Ron

11:55 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Finally a Teacher with the gutrs to tell the truth. We all know that she is absolutley right, but some parents do not want to excedpt the truth, just as some parents think that a teacher is a 8 hour baby sitter. I know many teachers, and I have listent to their horror stories, about kids and or their parents who threaten them into passing some kids who never even open a book all year in or out of class. So before you judge this teacher, you should ask yourself, why would anyone want to be a teacher; would you? Teacher's are lowing paid people who cared enough about helping other that they take crap from the system and parents who are to dam lazy or to stupid to teach their own children. Maybe those who do not want this teacher to return to school should Home school their children, which is wonderful if you are a educated person yourself, but if you are a blooming idiot and sorry jerry springer trailer trash person in the first place, then that is what you are going to teach your children. Me myself, I believe that this teacher SHOULD RETURN to her class, because I for one will admit, that I am not smart enough to teach our children, are you?

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denise

12:36 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

finally? Teachers should never bash students, if they want students to look up to them, learn from them and respect them!

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Amanda Jo Johnson

2:07 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

What's the resounding TRUTH here????????? Oh you mean that children can be a challenge, they don't see things our way, are impulsive, aren't always as robotic as she would like?? And it tends to be exasperating to create an appropriate, effective environment that is engaging and creates the opportunity for growth for 8 hours a day?? AW. Well let's see, she is an adult, sounds like she received an "education", she signed up to be where she is MAYBE SHE SHOULD SIGN OUT IF SHE CAN'T HANDLE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sadie

11:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As a student, I would totally love to have this woman as a teacher! Some students just don't respect teachers, at all!

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Linda

12:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Sadie, it's one thing fora teacher to talk to the parents and the students and be frankl about their lack of motivation etc. BUT, it's another to act in a very hurtful, damaging way. Public flogging of students is wrong.

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denise

12:43 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

no you wouldnt Sadie you are probably a real sweetie and she would just poisen you!

tami

11:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

what is the big deal? lots of students AREN'T smart/nice/good people.I've helped out in my kids' classes and there are some pretty bad kids out there. So she vented and told the truth. She did not name names and no one from the school needed to be stalking her to read her blog in the first place. Are people allergic to the truth? I've had teachers in the past who didn't like my kids. Big deal.

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denise

12:39 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

not allergic, just compassionate! I feel for Ms. Munroe too, how sad to spend all of your years of education to become a teacher, only to hate your job, coworkers and students/teachers/parents.

Traci Ewell

11:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I wish more teachers were like her! Maybe this country wouldn't be in the state it is today! I don't have children yet. But if I did and my child was "lazy" or disruptive, I would give her permission to call them out on it. It is the parents responsibility to raise their children to be respectful of others, especially teachers. Education is a privledge! I pay taxes too! I just see a bunch of "lazy" parents raising a stink here...shame on them!

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denise

12:40 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

shame on all of us, not one is good!

Sam Lee

11:56 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She should be fired for a total lack of common sense. The current generation of kids is horribly disadvantaged by their parents' inattentiveness. We all know that. This teacher needs to use her brain and dig deep to find some compassion in her cold heart. And, when she loses control of her runaway insensitivity, she needs to vent to her dog and parakeet, and not put her irrational brain farts out there for all to smell.

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alex

12:20 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

OK so you are saying she isn't within her right to vent online? so in other words because of her profession she should be censored. I thought she was a teacher not the CIA

Cecilia G

11:57 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The woman's language is abusive, offensive, inappropriate, and bigoted.

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alex

12:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

and im sure that the students' & parents' language isnt? give me a break

Bridget Keating

11:57 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Scary that people like this are allowed to be in a classroom more less teach in one. What a very sad shame. She is hurting kids self esteem which should be outlawed. There are Principals and teachers like this in school systems that I have work at in Tucson (TUSD) and it is so crazy that they are allowed to be in situations with children and other adults for that matter.

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alex

12:22 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

how is she hurting their self esteem? did the article above not say that she did not say names. if your worried about self esteem maybe look at what kids are watching on the tube.

Ellen J Ruby

11:57 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

So all you adults out there think that the example that a teacher should be setting is that it is OK to bash those people in your life that you don't like. Is that how all of you handle situations at work when you don't like your colleagues or your bosses? Do you think any of you would have consequences if you were caught making these types of comments publicly about people you work with? Of course you would, but you think that because these are students its OK for her to bash them publicly. You are all stating that it is fine for her to voice these nasty comments because they are true, but I don't think that good parenting includes teaching our children that they should voice every thought in their heads (especially when they are nasty and hurtful to others) just because they are true.

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alex

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

then we can all live in the bubble that you live in. get a clue

Peter Gozinya

11:58 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I hope all your kids get her as a teacher. You parents have no idea how to raise children. I am outraged!!!!

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Mary Testa

11:58 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

What hypocrisy that this woman could lose her job over this while students who post vile things about their teachers on FB,Rate My Teacher and other social media are regularly defended by parents as exercising their free speech. I recall a recent court case in which parents of a student sued the teacher and school district when they disciplined hm for his postings. As for examples and role models, the primary examples students desperately need are those of ethical parents who hold them to standards of hard work and civility. This teacher is simply the latest victim of students who don't have such an upbringing, and thus have grown up entitled. These students' natural inclination is to be nasty when they don't receive immediate gratification, and their parents enable this attitude. In terms of laziness, I suspect the teacher called a spade a spade. We've all complained about teachers when we were students. The difference now is that parents endorse the systematic ganging up on teachers their kids don't like. I wonder how they would respond if such attacks were part of their work environment.

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bruce

11:59 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She sounds like one ot these teachers that wento teaching so she could have summers off. Now after 4 + years of education and how many years as a teacher she has realized HER horible mistake. Let the WITCH hunt begin. Let it start in NEW YORK CITY, GET A ROPE!

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Deborah

12:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes, I agree she was just being truthful. Yes, I agree with freedom of speech. Yes, I agree it was a personal blog, although I do question the concept of 'personal' when the blog is open to the world, but tell me, how would you feel in this situation listed below:

You're out at a restaurant with your husband of 45 years. Unfortunately, he has Alzheimer's. He needs a bib while eating. You often have to feed him like a baby. He has a vacant look in his eyes.And it's obvious that he has some incontinence issues. People sitting at the table next to you keep pointing and laughing. They make rude comments and suggest that your husband should just be put away somewhere. They are, of course, exercising their right to free speech, but is it 'right' for them to do so?

Just wondering....

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alex

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

your talking about harrassment in person, where the person being made fun of is aware that you are speaking of them as opposed to being anonymous like the blog. But i bet you anything those high school student would be the first to giggle and point

Lisa

12:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I can't imagine a doctor enjoying all his patients, a cop all his charges, gimme a break. We all say things not meant to be heard out loud. Has nothing to do with professionalism. No, one shouldn't be held accountable for free speech, otherwise it won't be free. (Of course I don't mean yelling fire in a theater) Obviously she has personality conflicts at work. Another issue it appears.

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bruce

12:07 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

At a min. she should be required to go to a shrink.

Mandy

12:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If students make horrid comments about teachers without it going viral what wrong with a teacher doing it, free country everyone, freedom of speech, get over yourselves.

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musethel

12:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think teachers are taking their job too personal and are forgetting why they even went into the field, to teach. Teaching is like any job it comes with its perks of summers off and getting out early but you also have to deal with good and troubled students who may make you work hard for your money. In my son's school, I cant tell who are the teachers and who are the students because many of the teachers act like the students. I've seen some male teachers with both ears pierced, wearing the same clothes a teenager would wear and giving high fives and pounds to their students. Yeah, free speech but she got caught! I think before anyone goes into a profession know the ins and outs. She should have known that dealing with kids can be stressful sometimes. She might want to look into another job.

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From hero to headhunter

12:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I have to say, being a male who payed attention in class, excelled in his chosen sports and took the same approach towards work, this woman is right. After all, it is the American way, pepper the one who pays attention - take what you need and run. I had the very same feelings she had when I was in school - and I voiced it, and the same feeling at my jobs - well masked. The problem is everyone is looking for a hero - an example - and therein lay the problem. Nobody wants accountability. I applaud her for making a martyr of herself, and feel sad that another one will ultimately bite the dust. Keep on fighting the good fight.

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jane

12:01 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

How can anyone say she had guts and was honest? If she had guts, she would have called the kids in, one at a time, with their parents, and told them what they needed to do to correct what was wrong. That's what teachers do. They don't get paid to let kids get out of control and then gossip about them behind their backs. If she's only been at the school a few semesters, she doesn't have tenure. If she's got this bad an attitude now, what do they expect once she has tenure and the stress of two kids of her own? She should be let go.

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Dee Brown

1:49 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Is it stated that she did or did no contact parents? That she did or did not try the 'one on one' approach with the students? Or that she did or did not reach out for advice from her co-workers? Let's just for kicks, say that she had done each of those actions. Does it seem to have helped the situation? It might lend a bit more insight to why she decided to vent her frustrations the way she did if those attempts were made to no avail. Most of the comments I have seen are directed at the language she used. In certain circumstances, when the sugar-coated venacular doesn't seem to work, we resort to a more abrasive use of vocabulary to bring attention to situation. We've all done it. I don't know the entire story so I can't say whether her choice of words were used for that reason or not.

tee

12:01 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The decision to have this woman return to teaching is a bad decision on the boards part and most certainly she is going to be resigning or going to another school within a short time as these students are aware of what she had done. Regardless of her frustration with her students, just a like a cop going off on a violent spree against someone which is not allowed, neither should her rants be condoned. She should be professional and approach the parents about the behavior of the students. Not vent like some dimwit on the web. WHO in their right mind takes a job as an educator, even a college professor and thinks their students will be saints and all well mannered?, if that was your perception of a classroom you clearly need to be re-educated yourself because you have lost touch with reality. She is in the wrong line of work and is best suited next to Imus or someone of the sort.

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Lisa

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree, that while she has the right to her job, it's not in the school's best interest to have her back in classroom at least for a year. Just for publicity's sake. I would question her judgment returning to the same school as well. We all have rights, however we all need to use good judgment.

Tyrone Shoelaces

12:02 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I rode the short bus, and people actually did lick the windows sometimes.

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J

12:02 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think her comments were pretty funny. She did not insult a specific child, she just summarized the categories they fall into. It mentioned that she teaches an honors class, maybe she has higher expectations from an honors class. Some kids are just smart, and some have to struggle to make it through school with decent grades. Sometimes the smart kids have no trouble making the grade, but don't apply themselves to further their knowledge. I don't see the big deal, had she mentioned a specific student I could understand the fuss, but she didn't.

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Art Waite

12:03 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As a retired teacher from her school district I can assure you that her honors kids will have fun with her--now that she's notorious, and she will either get run out of the place by their response to her or they will, surprisingly, flourish under her tutelage.
She's not a stupid person, and she may have actually matured and learned how to modifiy her behavior with this type of privileged kid. I know I did. Central Bucks is a great school district and can deal with gifted people of many types.

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frank

12:03 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She does not belong in teaching. I was a teacher for over thirty-three years, and I understand frustration. However, kids respond to teachers who can effectively control a class. It sounds like Ms. Munroe could not do this. She transmitted her attitude in the class room, and her kids picked up on it. She needs to find another profession.

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bruce

12:08 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Nice reply frank, if she can not stand the heat, then she should get out of the frying pan.

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Renee Silvernail

12:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I have no doubt you were a teacher for 30yrs, sadly things are NOT the way they once were in the classroom. There is no respect anymore. The majority (NOT ALL) think they know more then all the adults in their life!

From hero to headhunter

12:04 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

LOL - dealing with kids is hard and stressful - try dealing with the parents!!!!!!!!!

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Bob Macfarlane

12:04 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It is refreshing to see a teacher willing to tell the truth. I love it. Kids are lazy, they are assholes, some do not belong in Honors classes. If mommy and daddy would stop making the little jerks feel like victims, perhaps they could learn to learn.

In my 40+ years as a professor, I certainly met my share or the students she was posting about. Yes, I have told students to their face that college is not for everyone and perhaps they should consider a vocational option.

Try teaching a college freshman who cannot read, write or do even the most basic of math. The reason Johnny can't read is because there are not more teachers out there like Natalie Munroe . Keep up the good work young lady.

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bruce

12:11 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

You should have taught her, then you might have turned her to writing books instead of teaching.

jane

12:06 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

How can anyone say she had guts and was honest? If she had guts, she would have called the kids in, one at a time, with their parents, and told them what they needed to do to correct what was wrong. That's what teachers do. They don't get paid to let kids get out of control and then gossip about them behind their backs. If she's only been at the school a few semesters, she doesn't have tenure. If she's got this bad an attitude now, what do they expect once she has tenure and the stress of two kids of her own? She showed a particularly vicious streak in her comments about students in special education. She should be let go.

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Linda

12:07 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This is the caliber of teachers we have now, teachers who still act like kids, who like to gosspi and diss each other on the internet? There are way too many of them who have not reached a level of maturity to deal with children, and who have apparently not been taught some ethics. Ethics, that's a key ingredient in dealing with clients of any kind. The children and their parents are most certainly their clients, and teachers must maintain a defined professionalism when dealing with them. Colleges who are training teachers need to teach a course in ethics. At the very least, though, you would think her parents would have taught her better. I think it says a lot about our culture in general; when a teacher feels she or he can publicly excoriate students, parents, or other teachers on a public space. I think this is very damaging to the teaching profession. It's only going to get worse, if she is not made to suffer the consequences of her actions. I consider what she did as cyber bullying.

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Michael

12:07 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Well - we have a teacher that cares - better get her out of the system so the school's policy parrots can feel good again...

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bruce

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

She should be removed before more tax dollars are used to pay off a lawsuit.

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Bob Macfarlane

12:17 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Exactly what I meant about parents making little Johnny feel like the victim. Johnny is a lazy jerk so mommy and daddy scream sue.

Deborah

12:08 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Part I: Personally, I think we SHOULD go back to the days when kids were smacked with a ruler, or given swats in front of the class. I went to school in the 60s and 70s. Kids were not allowed to cuss, in class or elsewhere, but now the F-word runs rampant. I'm not a teacher, and from what I've seen of how kids misbehave in classrooms, I wouldn't want to be one. That used to be my dream when I was younger, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone these days! Kids can get away with telling teachers to "F*** off bitch" and more. They get sent to the office and what happens? Nothing....oh, wait, no, what happens is the parents get called in and all you hear is, "Not MY kid!", or "You teachers just pick on my poor Johnny", etc. Parents, and society in general, have forgotten to teach kids that there are (or should be) consequences to misbehaving. But we've turned into nambie-pambies when it comes to handing out punishments to kids. "Time outs" don't work. A good swat on the ass gets their attention. (And don't go all psycho on me--I'm not saying to BEAT the criminals-in-the-making.) I got a spanking when I did something wrong, and it taught me NOT to do that again. I didn't hurt my psyche.

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Colleen Dundon

1:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

While I do not advocate spanking children in front of the class Deborah is correct that discipline has taken a wrong turn. Parents and schools have become too concerned about hurting a child's psyche instead of actually disciplining them. Too many parents are trying to be their child's friend instead of his or her parent. A child's parent is his/her first teacher in life. Too many parents are expecting the schools to do a parent's job. More parents should be like Joy, whose comments are below. I teach at a 2 year college and many of today's younger students, although not all of them, are in fact lazy. They expect to pass a class without having to complete the assignments. They do not know the difference between to/too, there/their/they're, etc. Many of today's parents have not required their children to do regular chores, or even have a part time job. This teaches children to be lazy.
I'd be willing to bet that this teacher spoke the truth and that other teachers at this same school quite likely would agree with her comments but they do not have the courage to do so in public.

Elsie

12:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

You aren't alone, Amanda. If you only saw how mine are in where I live, you'd probably feel better.

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bruce

12:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Its always the english teachers.....

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dawna44

12:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

My generation, product of depression era parents. We being told daily, You don't know what it's like to have nothing. In turn we turned around and spoiled our kids rotten.They got what we didn't get and look all the good it did. This country has never been in the dire straits as it is now and from what i can see getting no better.

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Jeff

12:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Why is it you need a license to drive but not to have kids. Parents are the real problem now a days.

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Alex Baker

1:08 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

AGREED 100%
They have all these tv shows now days saying 16 and prego,,, and teen mom,,, and 17 whatever..... these shows are just influencing teen to get knocked up.... and frankly the teens don't even know how to support themselves yet...... omg... this subject can tie into other issues tooooo....

jessie

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I'm thinking she has some sort of social or mental problem because she said she eats lunch alone because of conflicts with other teachers. I wonder what that is all about. We all know that some students are a handful but I think she was very unprofessional in saying the things she said. The adults here who are agreeing with her and passing judgement on others are probably parents of the biggest "assholes" at the school and don't even know it. I can hear them now, "oh no,not my child."

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Victor Meadows

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I taught in a rural middle school for thirty-eight years. I knew it was time to leave when a policeman had to be hired to stay at school each day and when I was asked to present "witnesses" to the office whenever a student complained. I loved history, my students, and teaching, but I hated angry parents (who never listened to anyone but their son or daughter), administration (who only cared about test results and not the students' education), and handling discipline problems (such as this teacher was describing). I thank GOD (dare I say - "God"?) that I survived to retirement. I quit two years ago at age 62 and have never regretted one day of it. I haven't even missed it!
I wish all teachers the best of luck! Remember, it's not what they learn or how hard the students work, but it is "self-esteem" and "being successful for doing absolutely nothing in class".
God Bless you! (Oops! I hope I didn't offend an atheist.) I hate "political correctness" and I taught civics. Teachers always get the worst end of the stick. I'm not sure that this teacher should have blogged her frustration, but the truth hurts. I have felt the same way many times.

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steven

12:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Did she ever consider the fact that maybe she is a crappy teacher and that is why some of her kids don't do well or are unmotivated. My children, have always, always gottent their best grades in the classes where they love their teacher! These teachers were caring, FUN, loved their jobs, and most importantly were meant to be teachers. Not someone looking for benefits, summers off, paternity/maternity leave etc. If I was in their district it would kill me to pay her salary. Despite that fact that there are usually only a handful of those amazing teachers my children all went on to be in honor classes DESPITE their teachers.

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Max

12:11 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I'm glad there was a link to her blog, it was insightful. She comes across angry, arrogant and irritating. I suspect she'd be unwelcome among her collegues wherever she worked, and am glad she doesn't teach in my district. It's too bad she has contact with kids at all. Maybe the local supermarket is hiring, Natalie. You'd be better placed there.

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Alex Baker

1:05 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

You'd best be looking for a part time job to max, cause if you agree to letting a truthful teacher go, then let all these immature students into the work environment.... oh no look out.... we will all be strafing the ground looking for food.... I graduated 4 years ago... and OMFG.... HOW THE F**K ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A LIVING IF YOU CAN'T EVEN READ OR WRITE IN HS. This teacher is trying to get all you parents to start thinking.

Bob H

12:11 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As one other good lookin woman said YOU BETCHA

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Jean

12:11 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I have worked in a school as a Teaching Assistant, Para-professional. Students are out of hand mostly because of parents not accepting responsibility for their children's actions, but also because of society today. Teachers have a very difficult time in our classrooms today. They can only do so much to discipline a child because of laws and unfortunately children are not disciplined at home.

Since Natalie did NOT identify any o her students I say let her stay! My children used to go to that district years ago and I was always sorry I moved away. I would have welcomed her as a teacher.

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JWitt

12:25 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This was flagged mistakenly as inappropriate...slip of the mouse. I totally agree with this statement actually!

gary

12:12 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Sorry parents sometimes the truth hurts. The problem today parents don"t want to parent.

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Barnegat Ray

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Today's parents want to put the blame everywhere else...truth is, they did not take the time or make the sacrifices (time, money) to get the job done right.

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Mary Hatch

12:46 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

A webcam in classrooms would help parents understand.

Catherine Seibel

12:12 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Good for her for speaking her mind. She has the right to. I believe that kids today are out of hand. Just look at the fact that they took the opportunity to "lash back". Obviously her comments hit home. As a mother of three, I do get tired of other mothers coddling their "precious babies" to the point that they cannot teach them respect, empathy, and social compatibility....especially in a classroom.

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Bob H

12:13 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I thought the remarks were probably all true. You go girl. YOU BETCHA

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Ellen J Ruby

12:13 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

All you people complaining about parents and how kids don't know what they have blah, blah, blah; complaining about how kids behave "now a'days". Yet these are the same people whose comments condone trash talking others (that sure is the way to get something positive accomplished), not taking her concerns to the parents but hiding behind her anonymous blog with her nasty comments (again, lots of words, little action....because action takes work)....I'm just saying.....

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Barnegat Ray

12:25 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Sorry, Ellen, but the majority of parents defend their kids' even when they're clearly wrong.

Elaine

12:13 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I drive a school bus. I have witnessed police at schools to remove some of these kids by force to protect the teachers. The parents come back with "It's the teachers fault she pushed my kid to hard." Or the 2nd grader whose parent wanted a teacher fired because she wouldn't excuse her child from homework because she had to many after school commitments. Or the parent that saw a video of his son misbehaving on the bus and said "that's not my son." and you could clearly see it was and the sad part was his son was sitting there. So, if all a teacher does is blog to get things off her chest I say "Have at it". It's better then becoming an alcoholic or drug addict or better yet taking it out on the kids.

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Barnegat Ray

12:26 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Today's parents want to put the blame everywhere else...truth is, they did not take the time or make the sacrifices (time, money) to get the job done right.

Deborah

12:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Part II: And as for this teacher making those remarks on a blog, I think it was a great way for her to get a lot of that crap out of her system without going ballistic in the classroom. It was her form of therapy, and I applaud her for it. She's got every right to say the things that are bugging her and then go back into the "battleground" with these kids who think they are entitled to act as uncivilized and above doing the work that is expected of them. That's why we have too many kids now who think they are above the entry level jobs that WE all started with. They think they should be handed a top-level position with high pay, rather than put in their time working their way up. They've learned this partly through a school system that inflates grades just to keep moving kids up, even when they can't even spell or read or do a simple math problem. They've learned it from parents who don't teach discipline, manners, and common sense, but instead give these kids every new electronic device, brand name clothing, etc., because they think they owe it to the kids. (where this stupid idea comes from is beyond me). My kids got what we could afford, not what 'everybody else is getting'. And they've all turned out to be hard-working, polite, intelligent human beings working in the court system, in the military and with disabled adults.

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Heinkel

12:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

What is being missed in all of this is that her mistake was writing this stuff down. Everyone has thoughts like this when frustrated but maturity should control the urge to vent in this manner. This doesn't go just for teachers but for ALL adults. What kind of role model is this? Why is such lack of character being accepted by anyone? Just check out a teenager's facebook page and you will see it happening all the time. It is the responsibility of all adults to model appropriate behavior. Need to vent? Do it in the privacy of your home, verbally with a spouse or trusted friend. DON"T PUT IT IN WRITING! Duh!

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Star

12:15 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Parenting is hard, teaching is hard. Both are harder than they have ever been and when you do not have the 2 groups working together to maintain a stable and consistent environment for the children, the children will work that system. It's human nature. Let's quit whining about what she said, and work on the actual problem; parents and teachers working TOGETHER. It's fine to say "I won't stand for you insulting my child." but only if you have made sure your child (and you) can recognize and accept, as well as act on, constructive criticism.
Maybe we should be using this for the learning opportunity it is?

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Dee Brown

2:01 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Excellent idea, nice voice of reasoning. Is there anyway we can clone you about 5 or 6 hundred times then elect all of 'you' to Congress and perhaps the presidency?

JWitt

12:16 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If you ask anyone that has ever worked with or around kids these days they will tell you it is a changed breed from when we were kids and I’m that old. They are so much more disrespectful, lazy, and just all around whiny asses. No, not all of them. Some people have their children in check and have taught them manners however, all too many have not. This totally reflects on those same parents complaining, after all, where are the kids getting it from?? When did it become okay to push your children’s upbringing onto the teachers, as it has been for years now, and then give them no authority to discipline? Oh and you can’t complain, speak-out or vent about it. Next thing you know they’ll want the government involved!

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Teacher

12:16 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I teach. She's just telling the truth here. She didn't attach students' names. Admittedly, today's parents are the worst, most selfish and irresponsible group of people ever to be intrusted with raising children. The kids are, in majority, lazy, selfish jerks. Teachers get blamed, but honestly, we go into teaching with pure hearts and hopeful that we will make a positive impact in the lives of our students. It's experience that taints us. Kids raised on McDonalds and video games. The future looks fat, bleak and violent.

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Alex Baker

1:01 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Well put Teacher. Ive stood up for many teachers of mine. Stupid s**t that some student at my HS did and was getting the teacher in trouble for it... Come on, These students and parents of these student need to be under 24 hour supervision.

Erika Paige Hunnewell

12:17 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This woman should not get her job back, at least until she receives some form of counseling. Being a good teacher requires a certain amount of empathy, which she is clearly lacking. The only empathy I hear based on her comments is for herself. The fact that she is not even welcome to eat lunch with her colleagues and that one of them said she will be ineffectual points to a personality issue. The issue at hand is not a matter of lying to parents about their children or poor parenting. There are decent ways of informing a parent of a child behaving inappropriately, which is often useful because sometimes the parents are clueless. However, their ignorance of their child's behavior does not necessarily mean they are bad parents. I know from firsthand experience that there are easy ways of hiding things from parents. I also know that there are certain unfortunate circumstances in life that may cause a teenager to act out, especially at that fragile age. The fact that this woman is assuming that certain students are complete "assholes" or have "no other redeeming qualities" based only on their classroom attitude is immature and grotesque. The comments above remind me of an old favorite, Matilda. Aside from looks, this woman is the closest thing to "The Trunchbull" I have ever seen or heard of in actual life.

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cfgardengirl

2:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Wow! Obviously you have never been in a classroom or have taught before. I left teaching after 6 yrs as a direct result of the students and most of all the parents! Parents are the real culprits here. It's the parents that condone their children's disrespect, misbehavior and laziness. I had too much empathy, I gave too many second chances, and what I learned is I wanted my students success more than they did. When I gave a deserving low grade, sent them out of the classroom for misbehaving and interfering with the other students learning, or gave them a 0 on a test for cheating I became the target for irrate parents. I had 1 student tell me that his Mom told him he didn't have to listen to me. A year later he was suspended from 2 schools. I have so many more stories like this.
I walked out after a parent, in front of the administrator, literally attacked my character verbally in my face. When I was informed my child was acting inappropriately I supported the teacher to my child. If I felt the teacher and I needed to speak it was done with complete respect.,
This teacher was expressing she would like to have more options to decribe the students she teaches. Many of her descriptions ring an air of truth. Many Are lazy, entitled, spoiled rotten brats with absentee parents.

Barnegat Ray

12:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Bravo, Bob Macfarlane...my parents raised respectful, moral childred...I raised a respectful, moral child...the parents who usually end up defending their entitled or otherwise disrespectful children are truly to blame here. It's a snowball effect, and it's getting worse. This teacher chose the wrong wording and approach, but she's 100% right about a lot of students today. Parents...wake up...and if you're going to have children, raise and teach them properly...spend the time to get the job done right.

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Jessica Espo

12:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

you know whats ruining this country is educators who think becoming a teacher is a job, it's not, it truly is a calling. Our country teaches us to go to school and get jobs, not jobs we love and are passionate about, jobs that pay the bills and make us miserable. Maybe at one point these teachers where in love w/ their profession, and something happened to change it, when that happens it maybe time to get a new career. It's not the job, it's how you perform it that makes you great

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Lisa

12:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Folks! The real point here is this: Safe guard your computer privacy!!! Sheesh!!!! Enough LOL

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GreyTx

12:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I wonder...if she had only glowing remarks about her students, how much attention would it receive? Freedom of speech does not mean only when you have good comments or when you agree with me.

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Joan K. Raisner

12:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes, people fought and died for our constitution and freedom of speech. The constitution does not guarantee freedom from the consequences of speech. The consequences of lack of common sense in how, where and to whom you choose to speak may be that if you publically disrespect your employer and its customers you are likely to lose your job - and don't quibble about what is "public" these days. Venting is a "lazy" way to avoid working on a problem. Instead ask yourself, "What's my plan?" Ask your "disrespectful" students, "What's your plan?" This teacher may keep her job because she will get the same careful consideration of her rights that she does not extend to her unprotected students. This teacher acted unprofessionally and irresponsibly, and needs more skills if she will be successful in her chosen work. At this point she is a liability to the Bucks County school system and will continue to cause problems. So, school board, what's the plan?

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Tammy Hybskmann

12:18 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

lesson one--if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all!!!

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bruce

12:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Funny she starts her blog off that way! I guess he does not practice what she preaches

gina

12:19 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I just think teacher's have to dill with all typ's of kid's with problems today. And I do
think parents are a big part of are issues today if they are not on drugs are one parent
home are even two parent home working all the time they don't work with the kids they
are to stressed out. and the kids pay alway's. Not only that other stuff could be going
on in the home? were the kid can't think at school are get help what a joke all around
for teacher and kid and parent whould'nt you say?

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Bruce Wallace

12:19 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Military school graduate, MBA (not online), business owner and, best of all, Boy Scout leader for over 30 years. Yep, I'm not a "teacher", but have had a "teaching" position all the time in Scouting. Whether working on rank advancement or merit badges, BSA volunteer leaders see the "best" and the "worst" in our youth. Our success in reaching each youth is based on a "program" that every child fits into. We are all "educators" of our village of children in the Scouts. Our success rate is the highest in all of "education" in preparation of our Scouts for the real world. We also have our parent "problems" and discipline issues, but the "Program" provides all the leadership needed to solve those problems. If our schools adopted the Scout "program" and the administration supported it, there would be a much higher level of achievement in our student populations. She was out of line, but truthful.

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Antonio Hurtarte

12:20 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Maybe this teacher just wants attention. Negative or Positive she got it!

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Joy

12:20 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Teachers have a much harder job these days. I have three children and I had to force the schools to discipline one of my children when he acted up in school. I punished him at home when I found out about his behavior but the schools have decided that in High School the kids are old enough to pick their own punishment and parents are not required to sign the slip to acknowledge that their child was in trouble. Now I go to the school every year and introduce myself to every teacher and let them know that if my child is a problem to please let me know immediately. When parents and teachers work together it is much more beneficial for the children. When parents take the stance that their "Little Johnny" is perfect and does no wrong, often times "Little Johnny" grows up to be the rude, belligerent, uneducated, and unmannered adult that doesn't know how to take personal responsibility for his own actions. Her choice of words were certainly not the best choice of words and she should be reprimanded for publically posting those choice of words that could be tied back to her as a teacher and to the school system in which she teaches. However, her message should be heard by the students and by parents. When those children leave school and enter the work force they will find their behavior is not acceptable and they will blame everyone except themselves. Then need to learn what is acceptable behavior in order for our society to become better instead of worse.

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Franklin Moore

12:20 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The truth may not me comfortable but it is always right. Mrs. Munroe's comments about her students may seem harsh; however, the truth in what she said, and not how she said it, needs to be expressed. When I suggested that some of the people in my classes should not be called "students" the administrators ostracized* me instead of trying to fix the problem. I sympathize with Mrs. Munroe.
*long story made very short

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Marylynn Fallon

12:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I would agree whole heartedly with this teacher's views if she was not so blunt and rude. There are problems with our school system and the accountability of our youth and their parents. However, to drag a special needs derogatory comments into the mix is offensive to the nicest kids in our society today. Inappropriate behavior is a sign of someone who has special needs problems and rides the small school bus, Perhaps Miss Munroe should be licking the windows of her own special bus all the way to the unemployment office. Fire her!

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Christy

12:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

"they decided to make it their business to ruin me" - really? It seems that she made it her business to ruin herself. Whether she felt her comments "right", it is inappropriate to say such things about children you are paid to teach. She isn't there out of the goodness of her heart - she is an employee trusted by administration and parents to be a professional. She would not teach my child. I think the fact that she didn't get along with her co-workers says a lot. Sometimes if you have a problem with the whole world, the problem isn't the world! Maybe when her boss evaluates her, they will leave a comment like "total jerk", "no social skills", "inappropriate witch", "complete butthole" - or excuse me "cooperative in class"!!

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Mary May

12:22 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

GET HER AWAY from the children. ANY teacher bad mouthing students should not be allowed around them. She is very unprofessional! Fire Her!

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Alex Baker

12:50 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Why would you fire a teacher, who is only speaking the truth???

Julie

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As the daughter of a public hs teacher and the product of a public hs education, I can say say that teachers have to put up with too much crap, they cant focus on teaching they have to worry about kissing the school boards butt and standardized test scores. By the way not all school boards look out for the best interest of all students but of their kid! My dad actually was repremanded once for writing up a student for cheating because the kids dad was on the school board! its disgracful what teacher must go through and put up with because parents havent taught their children to be respectful and to have good work ethics. so i say if she wants to blog let her blog - from what I read she didnt mention any names so let her vent!

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Alex Baker

12:55 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Totally agree... NO Names were said... so no harm done to anyone.

Ive been on a school board once... teacher asked me to come up and tell them how disrespectful, disgraceful, immature brats, that most of these students are now days.

Heres something to do for everyone else.... The next open house your son or daughter has.... - actually go to it and observe everything that takes place....

Thanks for posting Julie.

chris

12:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Its a shame to think that this is the example a teacher is setting publicly and people are supporting her blindly thinking free speech is the reason they should and why she should be allowed to teach the children at that school still. I am not a teacher, I am a business owner and as a member of my community and father of five children, I try to set an example daily of how I feel my children should act and treat others. I work with other parent's children through scouting and in our community when I have the chance. None of those kids or my kids are perfect. They make mistakes, act foolish, do things that irritate myself and others around me. That's pretty normal. I am sure they do the same at school. I have never heard of any of my children's or children's friend's teacher acting this way publicly, which the internet is public. If I did, I would request they be removed from teaching. If you become a teacher, you take on the responsibilty of setting an example for children you directly influence.This is not the example that should be set. I am sure we all make comments that are negative, but the majority of us keep them to ourselves. I would never make public comments about the children in my contact or community in a negative manner and a teacher should know better and should be responsible enough to know setting a better example is expected of them. Don't let her come back. That would be foolish. Rallying behind her would also be foolish.

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Christy

12:28 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

very well-worded. Thanks for posting!

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Emma

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Well said. Couldn't agree more. Parents are not paying taxes for their children to be taught by a negative, irresponsible, and immature adult.

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Julie

5:19 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Yes the Chris the internet is public! If you read the article she had a whooping 9 followers of this "public" blog! and yes teachers are to be examples but do we moniter all teachers and their behavior... this one just had her "bad behavior" blown up! Bars, pubs, & club are public and no one says anything about Teachers being in these types of places drinking and being drunk. its only because some parents felt she was talking about their baby that anybody cares what she did.

Emma

12:25 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Speaking your mind is one thing but posting it on the interenet for anyone to see?? Not appropriate at all. If she truely feels this way about her students she shouldn't be a teacher, it's that simple! Coming from Central Bucks West, I have talked to many of her students at Central Bucks East and everyone agrees that she was a miserable teacher and has certainly lost any respect she previously had. I just don't see the point in her going back to teach at CB East- No one wants her there now!

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ANDREW LANE

12:25 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I really enjoy the honest approach and she has the right to leave any comment she wants to make on a blog. It's the parents that need to wake up and realize that there kids act like sorry animals in schools. They pick on the weak students and laugh until a student kills themselve, and then the entire school says oh wow we should of stopped the bulling in the school. Well parents you need to realize that one out of three kids are always picking on someone or acting like a idiot all the time in school and laughing about it. You have to get tough and stay tough on your kids and kick ass and keep them in line at times. I had to do that with one of our boys and its a parents job to straighten out your own child, not a teachers job, not a judges job, not anyones elses job but your own. Be a parent and if parents would listen to the teacher more about what she has to say about there child they would take some drastic measures and straighten up there kids and not have to worry about their attitude and behavior.

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Don

12:26 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I would love to teach (coming from an extensive corporate history) but I would probably not make it passed September as I would start off the class with a short announcement...."any of you who think you are gods gift and aren't going to put in the effort to learn or worse, disrupt the class, please take your failing grade now and go work part time, since that is all you will qualify for in life....any questions? OK then,,you all start off with 100 and an A, it's entirely up to you where you wind up"

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Krystal1932

12:27 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Um what about the sentence "She said she had taken to eating lunch alone because of conflicts with her colleagues." It doesn't seem that she likes anyone or anyone likes her. Come on people she may be spot on like some of you say about these kids but please explain the sentence I quoted above. These kids may have issues but she clearly does also. If she WAS spot on don't you think the other teacher's would be supporting her and some may be. However when you are eating alone and other teachers are saying things like "She will be completely ineffectual here," it doesn't sound like she has their backing.

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LoveMyKids

12:27 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Were her comments slanderous? Not really since no one was named. Libel? Same thing. Appropriate? Not so much. Accurate? Probably. I think her biggest mistake was blogging about them with an accompanying photo. If she had a photo of a seashell instead of her face, she could have retained her anonymity and probably 90% of the teachers in America would have applauded her for her candor! How one can say that they're "not identifying" themself but then post a picture of themself is pretty foolhardy on her part. I have two children in school--one going into the high school and the other into middle school. The 8th graders FOR THE MOST PART at my older child's school are good kids who just want their education but there IS that group of children that you want to smack. Now, would I ever post anything affirming that on my Facebook page or write a blog with my picture stating that? HELL NO!! Her judgment was poor, at best. However, if and only IF she is an EFFECTIVE teacher who challenges her students, supports them, enourages them...then I say she should take her lumps but keep her job. If she is NOT a good teacher, though, she should be disciplined accordingly--not so much for her blog but for her performance. You can be an effective teacher and still be harsh but if you're harsh AND ineffective...well, then...sucks to be you!

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allen

12:27 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This teacher lives in a dream world. She should try teaching in my community high school. We send only 15% to college, have lots of drop outs, and she has no idea what real lazy students are like --- and many are abusive to teachers. Get real, Natalie!

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Alex Baker

12:46 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Thats not something to brag about. Your school should be shut down if that is the case.

Mary Frizzell

12:27 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

When the school board goes to hire someone else they need to be more careful of who they choose. I've had a teacher like that and seriously I don't know they manage to have those types of teachers in schools. Even if the kids are acting up and disrespecting their teacher doesn't give their teacher the right to call them names or treat them differently.

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School Secretary

12:28 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Having been a school secretary for 40 years, I have witnessed many things. The behavior of children and parent is diminishing. Parents take up for rude behavior and the child knows what to expect...no discipline, business as usual.There is truly a break down in parenting skills and this is reflected in the behavior of little Johnny and Mary Sue, even at an early age. Parents need to teach their children respect and morals and demand that they do just that! The way the children act tells a lot about the environment from whence they have come as well as the company they keep. Children who come from "no nonsense homes" stand out among the troublemakers like a sore thumb. I have daughters who substitute in the schools and the stories they share with me are almost unbelieveable. Certain schools they refuse jobs because some of the students are so obnoxious. Parents need to be alert and be thankful that there are still educators who want to see the students succeed. Children need discipline and it's the parents' responsible to teach them right from wrong. Let the children know that they represent you when they are not in your presence; that is, if they respect you as a parent. If they do not respect you, then parents need to assess what could be the cause and do something about it. I applaud Teacher Munroe for her tenacity and speaking up. I hope someone is listening....especially parents!

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donna

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

A teacher has a position of power over students; therefore, teachers should be held to a higher professional standard. They should not be able to stoop to their students' level. How would you react to your child's daycare worker stating that she/he hates your child?

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Matt

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Are you kidding me? When I was in high school, the students would treat the teachers horribly. They have students cussing them out day after day, I can understand why she vented her frustration. Teachers have one of the hardest jobs in this country

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Barbara

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The point isn't whether she's correct about what she said or not...she's generalizing for one thing. It's news that some kids are lazy, uninterested and rude? This woman did make statements about certain children that DOES identify them by people who know her and where she works. Have you who support her actually read her posts? She sounds like a teeny-bopper. She is NOT a professional and she should not be teaching.

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michelle grant

12:29 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am an Educator in NYC High schools for over 15 years. I have taught honors classes advance placement courses and special education courses throughout my career. I have had my share of "difficult" students both academically as well as difficult in personality and character. I have NEVER in my career resorted to acting out in cyberspace because of situations that are part of the nature of the profession I CHOSE!! It is cowardly and unprofessional. This woman as many different avenues to approach the issues that exist in her classroom. She choose to work with these students in that school and district both ethically and contractually. Obviously it is still a necessary option or she would not be trying to go back! You dont like the students you dont get along with coworkers, how effective are you in the quality of what you are supposed to be contributing to your educational environment? Get off cyberspace and spend your time doing what you are being paid and entrusted to do ; Learn how to be a knowledgeable educator who can effectively deal with the students in your classroom. Contrary to cyberculture and the media there are tens of thousands of teachers, principals and parents that are doing this with success all over the country everyday. Blog with them or e-mail me.

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Barbara Hawley Berka

12:51 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This is the most thoughtful and intelligent comment I have read here. I am a grandmother with several grandchidlren in public schools. I think you have offered this woman some valuable advice, but something tells me that at this stage in her life, if she needs to resort to such immature tactics in order to express her frustrations, she would benefit from therapy to improve her communication skills, and perhaps career counseling to find a job that doesn't involve mentoring young people.

jinx NOLAN

12:30 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I believe that anyone who really liked children and teaching children would not write blogs like the one this woman wrote. There are ways to teach which can make the information if not interesting, palatable. It is sad that her interest is not on the children. Why is she unable to find colleagues with whom to have lunch? I infer that she is not a good candidate for being a teacher and perhaps has some issues about anger and control. Not really a people person.

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dave

12:32 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Though I find it offensive to call a student a jerk -alone,debatable as to veracity- lazy might be appropriate. What is wrong if it has been determined the students didn't do their work, make the effort? Given many students are "pushed" through the system and studies indicate enough at the college level can not read beyond a fifth grade level indicates either some serious teaching issues, administrative issues or students who have learned, doing little doesn't prevent advancement. Merely recal the recent news regarding massive cheating in Atlanta. Add to this cheating found in other state school districts might just prove the administrators know their stundents don't know the material.

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pjmr

12:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This teacher does not deserve to teach the children she is in charge of. The damage that is done to the students is life long and quite damaging. I know from personal experience. If a professionally educated teacher can onlly resort to this type of a description of her students, she doesn't need to teach my children, The damage to me and one of by best friends happened in 1972. It took until 1993 for me to prove the teacher wrong that I was smart and could find my way out of the paper sack. I did graduate from college, and now I am finishing my education and will receive my BS from a college on line. It took a long time to get over the damage that this high school teacher did to me. Repectfully submitted, pjmr.

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Mrs. O

12:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If she dislikes her students so much, then, why is she so desperate to keep her job? She made her bed, now she needs to lie in it. She created this situation, not her students, and not their parents. I hope she doesn't continue "teaching" because she is not fit for the profession. Regarding her being on maternity leave, it's a shame that Karma didn't give her her own special little window licker.

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Krystal1932

12:38 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Your last sentence Mrs.O is by far the best response I have read concerning her comments on the short bus.

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bruce

12:52 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

When i was dating i looked at the mom to see how the girl would later look, this kid will have a tough road ahead. May not be on the short bus, but will be tormented at school (and if the blog is her attitude,) at home also

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erin

1:03 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Regardless of how you might feel about her comments and behavior ... wishing she have her own "special window licker" is very unkind and innappropriate.

Thomas Dunn

12:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It is about time someone addressed the true problem in education. Drop out rates and test scores reflect poor parenting and students who don't give their all more than poor teachers. In 38 years of teaching the biggest injustice is done to teachers who are blamed for the failure of parents.

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Jessica Morehouse

12:34 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Well when it comes to teachers like her they should choose a different career. Children are children they are those things she wrote in her blog. Yes you do have some really nice kids as well but as a teacher thats when you have to be understanding. That kid maybe a jerk or mean and cruel because they see their dad being that way to mom and vice versa. They may be mad at the world because their parents are going through a nasty divorce. They may have an attitude because they did not get enough sleep due to the fact at night while one parent is asleep the other is sexually assaulting them--thats what happened to me growing up. I was a nightmare as a child cussing swearing throwing things getting into fights running away going to juvenile hall and getting into drugs and alcohol. I was mad at the world cause these things were happening to me at night and I could not tell anyone because I was threatened with a gun saying he would make it look like an accident and if i told my mom he would kill her then me. I understand that not ALL kids are going through something traumatic if their acting out but my point is before you judge a child you might want to keep something in mind and that you do NOT know whats going on in that childs life that could be causing him/her to act the way they do and you can not rely on the fact that they will tell you whats wrong or the truth cause I never did. I was petrified growing up as a child/teenager, you just never know

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Brandon

12:35 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I believe she has simply just told the truth and the parents or school board does not like it. I know when I was in school there were about 75 percent that falls under what she has said including me. I was at the top of my class as well so being smart and really good academically does not excuse you.

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Jessica Crawford

12:37 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

now if her posts were private for herself or only her close friends to read then that'd be different. it in no way makes it right but it's her own fault if shes putting comments like this about her students in a public forum. she deserves to be fired.

Chris Shearin

12:38 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

yes she should get her job back, not everything is candy canes and lollipops. Get over it people, if your a bad parent do something to fix it instead of lashing out at the person who points it out

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Miles

12:38 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Given her teaching record, i.e., students GPA, I sincerely doubt if another teacher in this school comes close. It's about time teachers were able to tell the truth about their students and not just canned or "approved" remarks. Most every parent has little darlings that will not put forth the effort to LEARN. No wonder our teachers nationwide are frustrated with students and parents who will not get involved with the teaching of their children. Most parents today don't even teach their children simple manners but rather overlook the importance of them. Why does anyone expect such parents to "teach" their children even the basic three "R's."

Given the Atlanta school district's current scandal, I wonder if the teachers there were able to be honest and frank about the type of students they have in class, would the test results cheating have even happened.

Parents need to ask themselves just one question. . . . Why do we need police on our school campuses? Could it be that there is a serious problem with a large percentage of the students?

Now, ponder this. We have created two, possibly three, generations of a substantial number of illiterate students from high schools in virtually every state. The first and second generation of those students now have children. By their parents failures it is obvious that education is not important to them. That being said, how can those parents begin to help their children with homework? The problem is expediential.

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Warren Randall

12:39 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Well, if politicians can tell the "truth" about each other (and most of her comments could be applied to many of them), perhaps her evaluative comments should be adopted by the School Board.

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Steve

12:39 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think everyone needs an outlet for stress. I also think teachers should never ADD students to their person Facebook pages or personal websites that they may use. Do I think she did anything wrong? No. She voiced her opinion bad or good she didn't use names or the schools so she did not actually insult anyone. Those who got upset must have had mutually negative opinions about her and felt that they resembled the person described. One should not have a bad attitude towards others then get upset when that person doesn't like them or has a negative opinions about them. Bad ass kids are that way because of lack of parenting. No one wants to be the bad parent and tell their kids no and teach them morals anymore. They expect Television and everyone else to do that for them. And when they don't it is like off with their head they disrespected my hellian. Look I know we don't all have the same opinions but really when did we loose our right to freedom of speach.

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Greg

12:41 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Keep babying the "children" and they will continue to be

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Connie Kaloyerakis

12:42 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree with Jeanne.First rule of teaching,..You should like children! If you can't be compassionate towards a child, you shouldn't teach.Calling her students lazy a-holes and saying she hates some? I've seen really good and really bad teachers over the years.Also, just because she's an english teacher doesn't mean she's intelligent or articulate.One of my sons English teachers constantly misspelled in her notes.The hope is that people become teachers because they genuinely love and care about children and want to build them up, not tear them down.Too many choose it as a "job" not a calling.I think she should just find another profession.

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Cecilia G

12:45 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree. Her words indicate a disdain for children, and a very special hatred of less than perfect children.

Cecilia G

12:44 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Natalie Munroe's words are caustic, abusive, demeaning, and harmful to others. Keep her 300 yards from ANY child. Maybe CPS should take a look at her.

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bruce

12:44 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Brother is a teacher.....wants summers off....has foster kids to HELP PAY THE BILLS, have a sister a teacher, complains about her job constantly, but goes back to school so she can get a bettere job. Its been 15 years, still going back. Have a father retired from teaching, gets pension and teaches just under the hour limit t make more money. He is not interisted in the children. Moher sorry you lost your job sleeping with your students, now working at a brick factory. I have built two buildings for teachers (ESD) and they are the dumbest group, a few days before a sidewalk pour we put up signs to use east entrance, caution tape, etc. Some gal walks under the tape, in heels , and sinks as she walks, then removes shoes and continues to walk on walk in unprotected feet, goes inside and complains to construction leasion. Another day empty fire sprinklers on outside of building and 17 people ask to go home because of smell is making them sick. I know for a fact most teachers would not be teaching if they could look back in the future. Were the summers off really worth it? Hind sight is 20/20.

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Dave

12:47 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

There are professional ways to make productive comments without placing people on the defensive. If Mrs. Munroe values her job as an educator, she should explore ways to express herself as a professional educator not an out of work comedian. Let's face it, we all get to work with morons in our professional lives. How many of us get to blog about them, calling them out for what they are and keep our jobs? It really is a small wonder that Mrs. Munroe has to eat alone. I wonder what her critical eye would say of herself given the opportunity. "Does not play well with others."

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Dr. "Roy"

12:48 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Might I say, as an Adjunct Professor that has seem most educational issues twice, I am amazed at the lack of understanding of the positive teaching process. This particular teacher acted inappropriately and exhibited personal emotional problems in her "Tweets." What is really scary is that she has two children. Her two children will be forced to live with this dysfunctional character for most of their lives. She, Ms. Monroe, should be replaced and not allowed near children. She is personalizing the educational process based solely on her discomfort with own emotional state. Her comments exhibit resentment and self-hatred. Get her out of there ASAP!

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Lou

12:49 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

THERE IS NO DOUBT...THIS TEACHER SHOULD BE FIRED!!! Clearly, she is a hateful and extremely bitter person who has no business being in the education system. By her own admission she eats lunch along...clearly her colleagues feel there is something wrong with her as well. The only impact she will have on students is a negative one. GET RID OF HER BEFORE SHE DESTROYS YOUR SCHOOL AND IT'S REPUTATION MORE THAN SHE ALREADY HAS.

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Paul A Britton

12:51 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

If that is how you truly feel then shout it from the rooftops but be ready for the blow back. A good teacher would have talked to the parents in a direct but tactful way to resolve the problems in her class. And if that did not work then taped them and show the parent what their kids are doing.

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Paul

12:52 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As usual in politically correct America "you hurt my feelings" the messenger is being attacked. People tend to focus on the messenger not the facts. As some of you in th proffesion have stated "shes probably right" . She also has a right to her opinion and a right to express it (first amendment). Thank the lord she had the courage to express her unpopular opinion although I am fairly confident it wasn't meant to become public. It appears she was venting her frustration, were the comments in poor taste? absolutley! were they unproffesional? probably but rather irrelavent in that she made these comments outside of school and not directly to the students. I hope she can withstand the onslaught of political garbage, personal attacks and "shoot the messenger" behavior she and her family have recieved. She should be lauded and held up as a shining example of freedom of speech and expression. Whether you agree with her opinon or not, or what and how she said it. She and her family should be protected from the attacks she is now receiveing, and will continue to recieve. This should be a learning experience for her, the students, faculty, and school board, and if handled and managed properly can be. Everyones behavior is now on trial. Everyone involved should learn from this experience. She made a mistage and she does not deserve to have her character continually publically assasinated by emotionally enraged colleauges and parents.

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Cecilia G

12:58 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am shocked at the overwhelming number of comments attempting to blame children and parents. There is ONE person who is responsible for this pariah's words, Ms. Munroe, herself. Rather than blame shifting, she must be held accountable.

@Dr. "Roy", bravo. Your words speak my heart.

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Nicky

12:58 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think everyone here has forgotten one thing: Freedom of speech. The teacher was venting on her own time and not mentioning anything that could be identified (school name, students' names, etc.)
Does this mean that political corectness has gone so far that one can not even express one's own opinion, on one's time, anymore? People have given their lives for our freedoms, freedom of the speech being one of them, and she is being persecuted for using it?

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Tom

1:02 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

How does what she has done by blogging her feelings to the entire universe differ
from her standing out on 413 in Buckingham with a bull horn and saying the same
things??

Bob Quigley

12:58 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think Ms. Munroe was out of line even if there was truth in her assessments. Our kids are all grown, but we were engaged parents on school issues in our time. Our oldest boys could have taught some of their teachers. School administrators like to reward the best teachers by giving them the AP classes while kids most at risk get the teachers who cannot teach. Is there any wonder why schools are failing and we lag behind the rest of the world? That said, parents are an integral part of the process and behavioral problems should not be tolerated by teachers or school administrators.

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Tom

12:59 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

When someone acts as irresponsibly as Ms Munroe has done there is probably
hidden guilt on her part as to how well she has managed her own life and her "working" life. The children cannot be all evil and her all knowing and blameless.
If she was in private industry she would be fired, but lets face it public employment is
not the real world, with its union contracts, and extreme employee protections.

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Leslie Luanne Harris-Hicks

12:59 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Natalie . . . YOU GO GIRL!!!!! I feel your pain . . . I was a substitute teacher for our local school system for 150 days . . . November, 2008-February 2010 . . . I subbed kindergarten through 12th grade . . . I could write a book about how disrespectful the MAJORITY of the students were . . . There were even full-time, regular teachers who told me that the students didn't save the harassment for we substitutes . . . That the students treat them just as badly!!! The fowl-mouthed, bratty, lazy, scantily dressed, narcissistic behavior that I witnessed in MANY students is absolutely appalling and unacceptable! PARENTS . . . Be involved in your kids lives . . . Have appropriate rules, as well as CONSEQUENCES when those rules are not obeyed! Talk to your kids, be there for them, lead, guide and direct them well, PLEASE!!!! Your kids don't NEED a cell-phone, a Nintendo, I-Pod, etc. . . . They NEED YOU, LOVE and DISCIPLINE!!! SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS . . . Please get your backbones in order!!! Don't tell teachers to do something a certain way, then blast the teacher when a parent goes off on you for doing the VERY thing that you told the teacher to do! DON'T over-react to the small stuff and PLEASE do not brush off or ignore the big things! Uniforms should be mandatory for ALL students 7th grade and up . . . Absolutely NO I-Pods or cell phones at school, WHATSOEVER!!!! Consequences need to be enforced for using fowl language and bad attitudes! God bless us all and God bless the USA!!!

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christine l

1:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I'm wondering why this teacher didn't realize that teaching a class of students would be challenging. Raising kids is challenging. What made her think teaching 30 at a time would be a walk in the park? So, the answer is to insult them rather than try to do what she was hired to do? She can't possibly be teaching effectively if she thinks so little of her students. What a miserable existence she must have going to a job she hates and is not emotionally qualified to do. Pity her rather than applaud her right of free speech. I think a lot of things on a daily basis, but I, thankfully, have impulse control. Can she possibly teach her students this if she does not have it herself?

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Alex Baker

1:08 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Venting is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ED

1:09 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I think she is just very unhappy with her job. In fact, she may be the type of person who would be unhappy at any job. I've run into more than of few of this type of person in my life.

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Victoria Vukonich

1:10 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Parents and adminstrators are more concerned about their chlidren's sports achievements than their academics. After over 40 years in the classroom, I have seen some very serious changes. Grades are "given" now instead of being earned. If students don't score well, we don't hold the students accountable, instead the teachers are. In the past, teachers were able to give more honest comments, so I understand how this teacher feels. But, of course you have to remain professional. If we want our nation to regain its position in the world, we need to wake up and make grades mean something again.

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Molly Swanson

1:12 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As a teacher I have felt this way about some of my students. However, I had the good sense to keep it to myself or only express it to one or two trusted co-workers. As a previous poster said, she was inappropriate but probably spot on. Nonetheless, she should be allowed to return to her job. Yes, we have freedom of speech in this country, but, more importantly, she should have to face the music. And my final thought is this, Karma is a bitch. I'm betting that at least one of her children may turn out to be the same type of student that she loathes.

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Cecilia G

1:13 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This article is not about the behavior of Ms. Munroe's students. It is about Ms. Munroe's comments, which make fun of disabled children, and serve to diminish their value, while making abusive comments about other children. She also makes demeaning comments concerning blue collar workers (see garbage man comment). The article has ZERO to do with the behavior of children, and 100% to do with Ms. Munroe's comments.

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Gorgeplace

1:13 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Did everyone miss the original article? It was posted by a 1st name only. Seems to me she may have had a frustrating day or week at work and vented, We have all done it. are we so perfect as to cast stones at someone else?? And what she said, could it be true. My gosh folks, we have kids who can not read at college level. We have lots of kids who care nothing about education. We have parents who use school for day care and do not follow academics. My goodness we have a bigger following in Junior High Football than we do at parent teacher conferences. Political Correctness is nice but when it prevents a country from operating for fear of hurting someones felings----- well We need to get to being honest and open. Perhaps then we can solve some significant problems but to bash a person because thay spoke what they thought was the truth?? Shame!!!!!

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Melissa Franks

1:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

What is this world coming too? Now day's you get in trouble for your freedom of speech and Kids tell the adults what to do. If you don't like what your reading don't read it at all. Plus why are kids wanting to be on their teacher's facebook? The teacher and student relationship should stay at school, period! Not too continue outside the walls of school. Honesty these computers and phones should be band from kids that way they can learn how to write. These parents need to quite blaming everyone for their BRATS, they are BRATS and need their butt spanked!

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Peter Quince

1:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I agree with Ellen J Ruby‘ comment. Ms Munroe doesn't show the maturity and professionalism appropriate to her position as an honors teacher.
There is less sensational and more precise language to make her point that she has students who are lazy, rude and do not behave as they should in an honors class. Why not state factually (without the vulgar ad hominems) her reason for whatever grade she gives.
However, my main concern is that she did not see that the following clip art used on her blog is mean spirited and offensive:

A piece of clip art that accompanied the post particularly enraged disability advocates and school board members. It depicted a special-needs school bus and read, “I don’t care if you lick windows, take the special bus, or occasionally pee on yourself, you hang in there sunshine, you’re friggin’ special.”

She certainly has the freedom of speech right to express herself in the manner she has chosen. But that does not mean she should. And in this context, I don’t think she should have.
Whether I would fire her or take some intermediate step, I don’t know. But there should be consequences.

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Deus

1:22 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The problem is not this teacher or many other teachers who feel the same way and won't tell.
The problem is with parents. Too many parents in this country have given up on their parental responsibilities and want to dump their rotten apples on the teachers.
Teachers are in the school to teach subject matter, not to baby sit little jerks.
Enough of this hypocrisy!

Doc Stevens

1:17 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This highly qualified teacher may not be aware, but she has accurately described the vast majority of students in the Columbus, Cleveland, Youngstown, Ohio school system. These are the students generating disruption for the other students that seek an education. Known for decades by the systems, it's the urban parents that are the problem; their multiple offspring are the symptom. Answers exist, including...
drug test all parents receiving federal & state aid. When they fail the test, they lose their generational welfare, medicaid, S.S. Disability, lose their generational free housing, free phone & cable. (Not free, actually... it is paid for by through your paycheck.) As all highway state troopers know...obtaining change of behaviors is efficiently accomplished through their wallets.

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bruce

5:42 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Doc, shame on you to suggest bigger government. Our gov can't even pay their bills now. These same parents are running (ruining) our country. punishment starting with the small stuff and build many jails and electric chairs.thats the answer. In just a few years the jails could be converted into apartments!....../;-P ~~~~~<====3

Barbara Hawley Berka

1:17 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The teacher is overweight and unhappy. Her comments are cruel and she comes off like a bully. She could have made her points without insulting parents and their children It is clear she has no respect for individual differences. Yes, there are kids who are jerks and whose parents don't care. But, anyone who would go to these lengths to make such disparaging comments in a public forum where others can read them, about the children under her care should be fired. It's not about freedom of speech. It's about respect for others and she has none. She chose to air her real feelings about students and their parents, and, there is no way any of my grandchildren would set foot in her classroom after such a display of rudeness, and knowing what she thinks about them. This lady is in the wrong profession.. When my grandchildren go off to school for seven hours every day of the week, I want to know they are being taught by mature adults who are not only specialists in their subjectts, but who also have at least a basic understanding of child development and individual learning styles. Children do not learn ALL values at home. They look to their teachers as examples ..If she ever has a child with special needs, I wonder if she'll have a different attitude about others who put up banners and bumper stickers with crude, humiliating remarks about HER child, who through no fault of his own has cognitive delays. In short, SHE's the " asshole." Our children deserve better!

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cfgardengirl

2:24 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Hmmm did you listen to yourself? She's not fat she's pregnant. Children should learn the value of respect in the home!

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Barbara Hawley Berka

2:48 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I didn't say "fat..". She appears overweight to me and she may be depressed. She is certainly unhappy.. I agree that children should learn to respect others and themselves in the home. Children are also exposed to other societal influences and as a parent/ grandparent, I want to have as much control as possible in providing positive influences and role models for my grandchildren. Anyone who would speak about students in this manner and make a mockery of special needs children is not someone I want my grandchildren being exposed to for SEVEN hours of every day..that's a lot of time in the scheme of things.. I have raised responsible, kind children who are now raising my grandchildren. It does my heart good to know they are being loved and well taken care of AND that good values are being passed on to them in their home. I WOULD NOT want the likes of this woman to have any influence on my children. Although they are hard working and respectful, they would be in the presence of someone who thinks nothing of resorting to name calling and laying blame on all parents, not to mention making fun of children with special needs. She is a disgrace to the education system. For someone who thinks her behavior is justified, you seem overly sensitive about my comment stating that she is overweight. This is something a person can control with hard work. A child with special needs and cognitive impairments struggles every day to accomplish tasks that others do with ease. Shame on her.

James Checo

1:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This is the problem with parents, they want the teachers to raise their kids and take all of the responsibility, Our education system is in the toilet. The parents are just looking for someone to blame when their kid does bad things, "Well it can't be my fault my kid is a moron, it must be the teachers fault." Half the people I meet in the world are just plain stupid and lazy. Alot of the blame fall on the parents that don't have the time or put in the effort to raise their kids, always looking for someone else to blame. This teacher was venting her frustration and the way you have to give the kid good reviews, God forbide YOUR kid got bad marks. To the people that think the Special needs bus thing is a bad comment, that joke has been around for at least 15 years and the teacher did not make it up. It comes with an animated cartoon caracture the is licking the windows on a short school bus, it has been passed around a couple of million times. Heck, you probably passed it on also. Parents need to Grow up and take responsibility for their own children or live with the conciquinces that maybe YOUR KID is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Maybe someone needs to tell them that.

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Jaguar6

1:25 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This situation illustrates the main problem with "public" education. No matter what your opinions are of this particular teacher, she cannot be fired. The Teacher's Union would not permit that to happen no matter what the infraction. As a result all these comments are a waste of time.

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Barbara Hawley Berka

1:58 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Unfortunately, this is true. However, students can be sure to request a different teacher.

Qbgoodner

1:28 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It's obvious that many of the naysayers are not educators and have no clue as to today's typical student. I agree that her comments are sadly too true. I agree that she does have free speech. I do agree, however, that as an educator, she has the responsibility to take the high road. There are ways of telling the cold, hard truth tactfully. I sincerely believe her post of possible comments was a joke. Everyone of my colleagues has heard the answering machine message for parents at a fictional school...hilarious and very true as well. I suspect that those demanding her head on a plate are indeed parents of the type of children of which she speaks. As far as self-esteem...young people today are definitely NOT lacking; in fact, many have too much, hence the bad behavior. Teachers are no longer allowed to record grades the student ACTUALLY earns because it makes the statistics look bad. Teachers are no longer allowed to effectively discipline students because too many suspensions and expulsions make the statistics look bad. The many ways that teachers are tethered go on and on. I absolutely abhor dealing with parents. I don't want an excuse why your child sleeps in class, texts on his cellphone, runs his mouth, is not prepared, etc. I would just like parents to say that they understand, and they will correct the problem. Yes, parents, you are to blame period. My job is to teach, period. If you want me to do your job, then pay me child support.

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kevin

1:31 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

The woman named no students. She named no coworkers. She named no school or school district. Her only crime was stating the obvious. If she has to be afraid of making a general comment about the state of students today then we all have to be afraid of what we say. I refuse to be. I drive a city bus for a living and I can tell you that the disrespect does not end in the classroom. It is rampant in our society. If your kid is 16 or older, lazy, disrespectful, cheats, and feels entitled to everything simply because he/she is alive, then it is too late. You have foisted a useless member of society on the rest of us. All this teacher did was state what the rest of us are thinking. Good for her. When those kids leave high school, graduates or not, the real world will hit them hard in the face. And deservedly so.

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Nikki

1:32 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Did anyone read that she ate alone b/c she couldn't even get along with her co-workers? Maybe something was wrong with her. Yes the kids were probably getting on her nerves, but when a person is always in the middle of something maybe it is not everyone else, maybe it is YOU!! I keep reading freedome of speech, but when kids are expressing their freedm of speech, but it is harmful or hurtful to someone else they are replimanded and told not to do that again. I agree that direspectful troublemaking kids should be dealt with but not I am a DIRECT person take it to the people who are giving the problem. Also keep in mind just about everyone is blaming the parents (indirectly I agree) Do any of you know the ratio of children that are in foster care? This is why I say indirectly I blame parents b/c perhaps if they were taking care of their own children or were in position to these children wouldn't be feeling the effects that they do. However, you cannot expect foster parents to do much (although they try) to control something that might be genetic or innate. A lot of these children were crack born or otherwise drug exposed what then can you expect. Of course I am coming from a social work point of view. Just some thoughts.

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Amanda Jo Johnson

1:35 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

...and we continue to wonder why...why? 25 out of 30...

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Karen

1:38 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

To all of you that have posted NEGATIVE comments about Ms. Monroe. Aren't you doing exactly what she did? Posting negative opinions and frustrations about another human being. I do agree that some of her statements may have been a bit tasteless but, at least she didn't name names and attack a certain individual as you all have. "What's good for the Goose is good for the Gander."

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Just a mom

1:49 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I have an idea, lets put a camera in the class rooms so that these idiot parents can see just how their little angel behaves when they aren't around. Besides folks her comments were written I suspect "tongue in cheek". It was more of a social comment on the Idiotic rules that teachers are expected to follow when dealing with students and their parents. Please note she was not speaking about all of her students.

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Just a mom

1:55 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Hey folks, her comments were not directed at or about all of her students, only a few that detract from the teaching and or learning of the other good kids. I suspect that the comments were meant tongue in cheek. I thought it was funny as hell. get real, we waste so much money one a few who shouldn't be in the classes to begin with and neglect spending the money on the ones that need and want a real eduction.

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Jaguar6

1:56 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

This situation illustrates one of the main problems with "public" education. No matter what your opinions are of this particular teacher, she cannot be fired. The Teacher's Union would not permit that to happen no matter what the infraction. As a result all these comments are a waste of time.

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Just a mom

1:57 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

No-one seems to care about the good kids who are being denied an education because the teacher has to spend most of the class time trying to control the few self entitled braats that don't want to be there anyway.

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Me

1:58 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

What I find odd is had this been other profession an employee complaining about their job or co-workers in a blog would not be a big deal. Just because she is a teacher she has to love her job, her students and co-workers and be happy happy all the time with no complaints? My facebook and blogs I belong to are filled with people complaining about their jobs and co-workers. I've probably even been guilty of it myself. I have children and I understand that their teachers are human, you have good ones and bad ones, nicer ones and stricter ones and at some point in their academic careers I'm sure, like their parents did at that age, they are going to cause some teacher a headache and if it makes him/her feel better they can go home and complain about my child go for it because realistically I know they aren't angels, and sometimes they are lazy or uncooperative or mouthy. I would also want to know if my childs teacher really thinks they are lazy or mouthy (or whatever) so I can help correct the behavior and I can see right through those "canned" comments because I know my child and when I read "always cooperatives, always friendly, blah blah blah", sugar wont melt in her mouth comments is BS because the Brady Bunch/leave it to beaver children were fake.

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J.S.

2:00 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It was poor judgement for Ms. Munroe to post her feelings on the web. Teachers have been warned of the consequences of posting on the internet. She should have known that her actions would create trouble for herself.
One point is being missed: she is an ADULT and her students are KIDS. Children should not be elevated to the same level as their teachers. Good or bad, Ms. Munroe, or any other teacher should be respected for that fact alone.What she says should be viewed as the truth, because she is an educator who spent at least four years to get the credentials to become a teacher. Teachers do not have the time or desire to "pick on" any student. Writing up a student for a disciplary infraction takes more time and energy than it is worth, in most cases. I spent 25 years teaqching middle school (6-8), and I never "ruined" a child--that was done far before I got them. Perhaps if teachers were able to tell the truth about children early on in their school careers, the problems would be addressed. The school and parents could work together to guide the student into becoming a respectful and studious child. Unfortunately, most parents think they know better than the teacher and would rather fight against him/her than to admit that their "angel" or "scholar" isn't who they thought they had. No one hopes for their child to have learning or behavior problems, but there comes a time when parents need to reconcile the difference between the child they have vs. the one they wanted.

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James Checo

2:01 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

question for all, For such a public Blog, How long did it take for the parents to find her Private Blog ? The paernst who found it and then forwarded the link to their friends, not to approach the teacher but to slam her on it. Until it got to main stream media did the school district intervene. Looks like the Parents allowed thier kids to slam the taecher and did so themselves. It was her PRIVATE BLOG and she did not name anybody. If some of the parents and kids got offended by the comments then they must have personal issues that stand out and make them think it was them she was talking about. Sounds a lot like the Parents and the Kids have thing they need to work out within themselves.

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Sherylynne

2:11 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Natalie wants a transfer to a different school. By her own admission, the teachers have not embraced her and she is ostracized to the extent that she eats her lunch alone. Natalie's blog comments had varying ranges of negativity, absent of any positivity. The school and administration want her fired, but legal staff has informed them she could have grounds for a successful lawsuit. So, their best solution to thwart her career and get rid of her? Deny her transfer, force her to return, and hope she quits instead. If not, guaranteed she will receive the requisite "two unsatisfactory ratings on her annual review" and she will be gone at no cost to the school or the administration. The politics of the public school system at work. You have to wonder who is outmaneuvering the other. The teacher posted her PICTURE on her blog with the name Natalie M. To say the blog never identified her is ridiculous. A PHOTO eliminates any chance of mistaken identity. One has to wonder if her covert purpose was to get out of the school with a big payday, which, of course, she would not get if she actually posted the name of the school. I suggest the showdown will yield results of Natalie 0 - CB East 1.

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sarai Nieves

2:16 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It's a sad day for the teaching profession when venting one's anger and frusration in a hurtful and non-constructive manner is perceived as okay. What happened to professionalism and to the noble reasons why one chooses this profession in the first place? When I became a teacher, I wanted to be a good teacher for all children not just for some children. When I become frustrated or angry, I find constructive ways in which to deal with my emotions. Helping others and making positive changes are a part of the teachers role. Spewing negative banter is obviously harmful and destructive.

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Tad Jackson

2:23 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

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The response from readers all over the world has been astonishing. Actually debuting during the February fury of the Natalie Munroe business, this unique online journal shows a different look at what happens in the schoolhouse by a very rookie teacher who loves his work and his students, but he expresses his thoughts and observations in a hugely different way than Mrs. Munroe. Sure, there are some intense student-teacher moments, even some choice words, too, but mostly it’s world-class hilarious and heartwarming … like reading a good book.

It’s the look at a teacher’s madcap classroom world we’ve been waiting for. It’s simply mesmerizing.

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ms. d

2:38 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As a former teacher and a parent I always said the majority of parents would be in shock as to what goes on in a classroom. It is very difficult with 25+ students, a few being special ed, for 1 teacher to monitor behavior and somehow teach. I have had one or two students ruin the ENTIRE year of learning for the other 23 students. It is all in how these trouble makers are dealt with by admin and the parents. Nothing was done from the beginning so the everyone suffered. Yes, I had a few parent complaints, and threats, over the years, but I also have had many parents thank me for a wonderful year. So, your child is ADD/ADHD, Learning Disabled or is Emotionally Disabled ~ they have no right to ruin the education of the others in the classroom by threatening the teacher/students or acting like a JERK. (my own child has ADHD - I never allowed that to be an excuse, thus no detentions or referrals, yes a call home & discipline for him, not lame excuses) By law the special education students are to be placed in the least restrictive environment. I am all for that, but not at the expense of the others in the class. Having a student screaming "Im hungry for 30 of a 50 min. class, being told he has to stay in there because, "he is too disruptive in the office" is totally insane! Also insane - children out of jail w/ ankle monitors for rape sitting next to your kid! Yes, these are extreme cases, but sadly true.
Cheers to Natalie for putting a humorous twist on a sad, sad situation.

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Amerigo M. Cimino

2:39 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Ms. Munroe, did not make any excuses!
She said the right things, (probably) in the wrong place!
I would vote for her!

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Bill

2:40 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

A post from July 19 slams the Central Bucks School District’s recently approved contract with its teachers. Munroe pointedly criticized a new proviso under which teachers would be terminated if they received two “unsatisfactory” ratings on their annual reviews.
“It seems like an awfully easy way to save money if there's a district shortfall, or to get rid of teachers who are at the top of the pay scale (or who are thorns in the district's sides),” Munroe wrote.
Natalie Munroe's indiscretion and lack of professionalism has taught her a lesson. She has been honest in her verbal expressions of frustration; however, she must be better able to mitigate her frustrations with more socially exceptable public expressions in the future. The Central Bucks School District negotiated a very good contract with their teachers, and the teachers ratified a very poor contract regarding tenure.

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TRUTHFUL ASSHOLE

2:45 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

YES denise I would consider hiring her as a governess! If I believed ANYONE other than GOD or myself were suppose to do this MOST IMPORTANT JOB of educating and TRAINING or INSTRUCTING my children! I would not even consider the LIAR chaplain williamg spoke of! SATAN will though! He is always ready to employ!

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elizabeth

4:21 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I am hesitant to leave a comment because I'll admit I did not read all of the above and it may have already been mentioned HOWEVER ...1) What ever happened to venting to your loved one over dinner about your horrible day or simply writing in a journal that you keep under your bed. I understand frustrations occur everyday to everyone but why make it public? She only caused herself more stress! You think you were eating alone before the blog? You may as well skip lunch! 2) I also understand without fail every year you get your snobby ones, your lazy ones, your 'stupid' ones and only a few star students HOWEVER it is my opinion (as a teacher) that it is our job to look past those glitches in personality and remember our purpose....to teach!! They all deserve an education ....even the slow ones who lick themselves and ride the small bus. I do not wish her evil for making a professionally poor decision but I do think she has a long struggle ahead of her. Maybe she should keep this incident in mind the next time one of her horrible students makes a mistake and wants to be forgiven.

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Concerned

5:20 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

It appears to me this teacher has a problem with children. How is she going to handle her own when they get to high school. If she has such a low opinion of the children she teaches why would she ever decide to have her own. I'm sure "she's" going to be the best parent out there. I wonder what the teacher's opinion of her chldren and her parenting skills will be when that time comes? Just a few thoughts.

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From hero to headhunter

6:17 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Just picked my jaw up off the floor...the teacher should contact the parents? The teacher is there to teach, guidance is the department to handle these issues - and yes, disruptive kids provide a often needed break from reality but they are indeed issues. In reading these posts, most everyone has just blogged about this person who blogged her feelings. Is it she who is in the wrong? Or the parents looking for a scapegoat rather than to sit their child down and see how her classes break down? Is she allowed to carry on the lesson without foolish interruption? Are her honors classes the problem, or the gp classes? Easy to pass judgement, but a teacher should command her post in the way she deems appropriate - not what the children deem appropriate. In this oversensationalized environment, it's easy to point at the "adult" and say hey you're wrong. Like everything else, this needs a little more digging. I think it's safe to say she, in all likelihood, will not keep her kids in PA for very long.

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From hero to headhunter

6:26 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Jeez, I can't get enough of these comments! If mommy and daddy came to me and told me little Johnny isn't having fun in your class, I would be forced to recommend a family vacation to Disney, or better yet a military school where lil Johnny can have all the fun and release all that extra energy he has pent up because mommy and daddy aren't letting him outside.

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janet kelly

7:06 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

As we like to say in education, this could be a teachable moment for everyone involved. We are human and we do make mistakes, and this is a valuable lesson for students and teachers and administrators to learn. My fear is that CB is setting her up for failure, and washing its hands of any responsibility for her termination.
Janet Kelly

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From hero to headhunter

7:14 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Unfortunately Janet, I agree. Anybody with any administrative experience here knows how this will play out. I imagine the community will "teach" kids how to administer a full-circle payback.

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Timothy

10:33 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

I can't believe all the buzz this story has generated. Even tho I share and agree with much of what has been said, I still want to weigh in on this issue. I think I understand this teacher's frustration. Some years ago, I was a teacher. I have been there and have had the same kinds of thoughts about some students. I may be a little different tho, I loved teaching and I was excited about what I taught. I lived for students that caught the spark and tried. These "sparks of light students" were from all backgrounds, some were gifted but most were from less than the best of backgrounds and probably had little or no home support. These gems made it possible to get over the lazy, whining, waste of space students. It was not easy to avoid showing favoritism and keep my personal feelings buried but I did. When I did "vent" my frustrations, they were private and not sent out for all the world to view as happens too often with this blogging faze. If anything, that is where this teacher went wrong. As a student, I was not the best and I drove lots of teachers as well as my parents right to the edge on a regular basis. I thank God that my parents stuck with me thru it all and also for those few wonderful educators who "loved what they taught and loved teaching." These made a difference and ignited in me things that changed me, and hopefully made me less of a lazy, whining, waste of space citizen.

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From hero to headhunter

11:45 pm on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Well said Tim; that's a very broad perspective you've shared. In my school, namely high school, the teachers were not at all afraid to let a student know they were out of line in front of the class. The good one's reflected and you saw postive change, the bad eggs stuck together. I mean, if you can't sit through a class and listen, then review the book or material after to clear any confusion, then you should probably talk to someone about it. It's pretty much a Phish mentality out there. You are almost better off being a hot mess in the end, and people know that and pass that on to their children.

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Irene

12:42 am on Friday, July 29, 2011

She can vent in a better way than posting comments online for all the world to read, the children, in her class know her, the parents, and her colleagues know her, this was not a private forum. I didn't note any action she took to better whatever situation caused her to make these comments. What effort did she make to to involve any parent of a child she was having trouble with? The comments about disabled or special needs children were especially despicable, these children are picked on and ridiculed enough and a teacher should know better, if a teacher can bully them, what hope is there for them, an adult, in a position to model how students should behave, and treat others, an adult, who is by the way, complaining about how her students behave, showing her upbringing is certainly lacking in respect and manners toward others less fortunate, by her rude and insulting comments. I certainly pity anyone with any disability encountering her children!!!

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Ron Genini

12:58 am on Friday, July 29, 2011

Permit me to add a line or two even if I am from somewhere else. I am a retired teacher in Fresno, California, 35 years in the same high school. I have received numerous honors from the state and county as well as overwhelming endorsements by the parents of my students over the years. Nevertheless there were some parents who didn't like me because of my candor. There are kids who are stupid, kids who are mean, kids who should never let their shadows darken a classroom's door yet the public school system takes them in. I was told by the man who hired me many years ago that the public school was worse than a brothel (he used another word): it takes anyone who rings the doorbell, even if they can't pay or function properly. You'd better believe that this old teacher (and his wife) understand what that teacher was talking about - and on her own time and dime, her district didn't have a thing to say about it - or has the 1st amendment gone down the drain in one of the first states?

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Barbara Hawley Berka

12:21 pm on Saturday, July 30, 2011

Yet another defender who doesn't understand that some of this teacher's frustrations might have been heard had she been more respectful of others rather than insulting. This was not venting, it was tantruming. It's NOT that she doesn't have a right to feel overwhelmed with students who are disrespectful, who need extra help because of disabilities, or who need parents to be more involved..but it's the unprofessional manner in which she attempts to communicate her observations. She comes across as someone who is not concerned about the future of our children, but someone who despises them. I want my grandchildren, who are respectful and hardworking, to be taught be someone who is teaching for the love of the subject matter, the love of learning, the love of imparting knowledge, and someone who enjoys working with young people.. Believe me, teachers like this DO exist. I taught in such a school. The students were from tough backgrounds. Their actions were criticised,.but their dignity was not taken away with harsh words and name calling. Jerry Springer? Any person who would post a mocking comment about a brain injured child would fit the profile of a Jerry Springer audience member in my opinion! Ignorance, and bullying behavior is what you see on that show and she fits the bill. Not one person has said anything against the first amendment. Ignorant bullies have the right to say whatever they want..but in most professions, it will not be without consequence.

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Barbara Hawley Berka

12:30 pm on Saturday, July 30, 2011

I worked with Rick Lavoie, a nationally and internationally known speaker and expert on children with learning disabilities. He would have a field day with Ms. Munroe. I'm sure by the time he finished with her, she'd be feeling about as small as some of these special needs chidlren feel when they are ridiculed by the likes of her.

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Joyce Wilson

2:01 pm on Thursday, August 4, 2011

Sorry there are just too many comments to read all of them but wanted to add my two cents.
I think this is a setup. When the superintendent, principal and school board found out they had no grounds in which to fire her they decided that any student not desiring to be in her classes would be allowed to select a different teacher. As of today I heard that there have been at least 50 students/parents that withdrew from her classes. So if things continue she will end up without any students and that is very easy for the 'leadership' to handle - release her from her position. No students = no job.

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